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01/16/13 08:50
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#189183 - What about that other post?
Responding to: ???'s previous message
http://www.8052.com/forum/read/189102 might be worth a look. That's where he says he's using this chip in a class.

The datasheet explains how to attach and implement external memory. It's clear, however, that he hasn't fully understood that.

Since he's not understood the hardware that he's got ... i.e. that trainer board to which he refers, that's being used in his class, it's unlikely he'll understand this other chip any better, at least until he does a lot more thorough study.

The '320 and the 430 are quite similar, though it's not at all clear what advantage he seeks to derive from the ROMLESS version.

I'm persuaded that he'd have a lot easier time with a DS89C450, of which he can probably beg a sample from Maxim, and which is trivial to wire up, since all it needs is an oscillator and a serial port (e.g. MAX232A) (it has an on-chip voltage monitor/reset-generator) and will need no external memory at all. The '430, of course, has only 16 k-Bytes of on-chip program memory, but is trivial to program without any sort of dedicated programmer, aside from a serial port, which he'll probably need anyway. With a monitor program like that Ultramon51 that I like, he can enter, assemble, disassemble, and debug small pieces of code using the on-chip 1 k-Byte XRAM mapped into both XRAM and code space, which, IIRC, the chip allows.

Maybe you just didn't recognize that the same guy posted both of these queries. Apparently he wants to play with this chip, but can't get his hands on it except in class. The '320 came up because he can lay hands on 'em at work, or somewhere.

As you know, I like these Dallas-designed chips, so I know how to play with 'em.

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List of 40 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Regarding Typical memory connection for a ds80c320            01/01/70 00:00      
   drop it!            01/01/70 00:00      
   same question - same answers            01/01/70 00:00      
   It won't work            01/01/70 00:00      
      Andy Neil's previous message            01/01/70 00:00      
         little feet stamping the floor            01/01/70 00:00      
            little feet stamping the floor            01/01/70 00:00      
               Erik doesn't like it when you don't do what he wants            01/01/70 00:00      
                  KISS            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Not exactly ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        I find it odd that you            01/01/70 00:00      
                           just to add            01/01/70 00:00      
                              If you really want to use ds80c320            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Not necessary ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    What about the other option?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Yes, but ..            01/01/70 00:00      
                              So your development cycle will be...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           What about that other post?            01/01/70 00:00      
                              reply to all            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 'something'            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    "something" reply            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Some links to reduce work             01/01/70 00:00      
                                 I'm not surprised ...             01/01/70 00:00      
                                    down memory lane            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Antique chips            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          in my opinion            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Just where, under the hood, can you look?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                this applies equally well            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Did he say he wants apples?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Highly integrated devices deprive one of valuable experience            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       the only difference ...             01/01/70 00:00      
                                          a monitor can not             01/01/70 00:00      
                                             I don't think anyone's that foolish ...             01/01/70 00:00      
                                                I do            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   He doesn't have to apply external memory            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      by your posts he does            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         You have to consider ALL his posts            01/01/70 00:00      
            The bible links            01/01/70 00:00      
               you are right            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Thanks            01/01/70 00:00      

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