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01/14/13 18:11
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#189165 - Erik doesn't like it when you don't do what he wants
Responding to: ???'s previous message
I've complained to Erik for a decade or more that he seems determined to get everyone to use what he thinks is "modern." However, since your interest in these MCU's is targeted at the DS89C430 and DS80C320, neither of which is from SiLabs, he'll continue telling you you're wrong until hell freezes over.

The fact is, you can do whatever you want, but can't expect serial EEPROM to serve as program store for a ROM-less MCU. If you study the datasheets, meaning thoroughly read and understand 'em, you'll clearly see why that is.

The DS89C430 has on-chip FLASH as program store. The DS80C320, has none. Without some sort of external memory, mapped into the program space, you'll have no luck getting the thing to do anything.

Though the DS80C320 is an old war-horse, it is still just a capable as it ever was. If that chip is suitable for what you want to do, then all you have to do is provide it with Flash, EEPROM, EPROM, or BBRAM memory that responds to the nPSEN strobe, once it's programmed with the code you want it to execute.

If you read DS89C430 the datasheet carefully, you'll see that there's a very simple programming circuit by means of which you can program the 16kB on-chip program store, for which purpose Maxim provides a loader program that is intended to reside on your PC. I've used this feature many times and find it quite reliable.

For the DS80C320, you'll need some sort of external non-valatile read-only memory, and you'll need some capable facility with which to program that memory. Serial EEPROM won't serve your need in this context.

BTW, since the DS89C430 has only 16 kBytes of on-chip program store, you can't program it using IAP, because that only works on the program space above 32 kB. As a consequence, you can't use SEEPROM to store your program and load it into the on-chip program store.

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Regarding Typical memory connection for a ds80c320            01/01/70 00:00      
   drop it!            01/01/70 00:00      
   same question - same answers            01/01/70 00:00      
   It won't work            01/01/70 00:00      
      Andy Neil's previous message            01/01/70 00:00      
         little feet stamping the floor            01/01/70 00:00      
            little feet stamping the floor            01/01/70 00:00      
               Erik doesn't like it when you don't do what he wants            01/01/70 00:00      
                  KISS            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Not exactly ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        I find it odd that you            01/01/70 00:00      
                           just to add            01/01/70 00:00      
                              If you really want to use ds80c320            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Not necessary ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    What about the other option?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Yes, but ..            01/01/70 00:00      
                              So your development cycle will be...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           What about that other post?            01/01/70 00:00      
                              reply to all            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 'something'            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    "something" reply            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Some links to reduce work             01/01/70 00:00      
                                 I'm not surprised ...             01/01/70 00:00      
                                    down memory lane            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Antique chips            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          in my opinion            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Just where, under the hood, can you look?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                this applies equally well            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Did he say he wants apples?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Highly integrated devices deprive one of valuable experience            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       the only difference ...             01/01/70 00:00      
                                          a monitor can not             01/01/70 00:00      
                                             I don't think anyone's that foolish ...             01/01/70 00:00      
                                                I do            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   He doesn't have to apply external memory            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      by your posts he does            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         You have to consider ALL his posts            01/01/70 00:00      
            The bible links            01/01/70 00:00      
               you are right            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Thanks            01/01/70 00:00      

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