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12/21/10 14:10
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#180226 - points
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Adding 39pF to SDA gives reliable operation. I'm not exactly a happy bunny, but it will do for the moment.
Good that you are "not exactly a happy bunny" you may have gotten it to "work"

Analog Devices can up with the underwhelming statement that its tested/works with Atmel EEPROMs. I've ordered some to try out.
1) It obvious that the AD IIC IF is a piece of crap
2) There are subtle differences between the serial memories and Microchip seems to be leaning at one of the fences. I have had cases where everything else but Microchip worked, but careful reading of the Microchip datasheet(s) made everything work. Now, of course, being stuck with the shitty AD interface you do not have that option.
3) "tested/works with Atmel EEPROMs" probably should have been "tested/"works" with Atmel EEPROMs" the old adage is "testing does not prove the abscense of bugs, it ONLY proves the abscence of known bugs"
4) "tested/works with Atmel EEPROMs" some Arghmel EEPROMS DO require repeated starts, so the statement is pure bull

a conclusion
if you need the features of an AD '51 and IIC buy SILabs

Erik

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TopicAuthorDate
Aaargh, it only works with the monitor connected            01/01/70 00:00      
   Scope            01/01/70 00:00      
      No obvious difference            01/01/70 00:00      
         May not help            01/01/70 00:00      
         Just a thought....            01/01/70 00:00      
   ground            01/01/70 00:00      
      Setup and hold            01/01/70 00:00      
         0ns hold is allowed indeed...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Bus Speed?            01/01/70 00:00      
               Reply to all            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Add capacitance :-|(            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Other options?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Chip Types and Connections            01/01/70 00:00      
                           chip type            01/01/70 00:00      
                           ADuC7026 and 24LC16            01/01/70 00:00      
                              If serial EEPROM not in critical path...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Another thing...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    that is ridiculous!!!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       I know...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Ridiculous - but not unique, I'm afraid            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Fully licensed interface            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Stop Timing?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                If I could figure out how            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Resolved? 39pF added to SDA            01/01/70 00:00      
                        NOw..ok            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Chewing gum            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Agreed            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Where?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        points            01/01/70 00:00      
                           "Features of a 51"...            01/01/70 00:00      
         do You have            01/01/70 00:00      
         to long track of SDA and SCL            01/01/70 00:00      
            huh?            01/01/70 00:00      
               the cable also            01/01/70 00:00      
                  re: the cab;e            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Capacitance slows flanks - but slow flanks needs hysterese            01/01/70 00:00      

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