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07/03/10 14:29
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#177082 - Good luck with that ...
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Nathan Spinuzzi said:
The answer is #1.

I am a self-taught electronics hobbyist with a cargo van full of old computer parts, fax machines, printers, etc.

So I therefore have LCDs, buffers, shift registers, latches, MCS-51 and MCS-48 microcomputers, a few uPD7810's, several 1-mbit flash ROMs, the list goes on.

The very newest would be at least ten years old.

If you have an 8748 among your miscellaneous devices, and wish to use it, there's a pretty useable IDE with editor, simulator, and assembler, written by Michael McCarrick, that I've used to help youngsters like yourself turn what's otherwise junk into perfectly functional devices. You will need a capable programmer, though, as I don't recommend attempting to build a parallel programmer for them.

I am seventeen, and am using the old chips to learn on.
I haven't actually built a system yet, but I have a pretty good idea about what to build.

I have thoroughly read Jan Axelson's Microcontroller Idea Book, and understand everything in it.

The reason I was asking about the 8755 was because I have five of these, and was trying to use what I already have.

If you have the means with which to program these parts, then you'll have fewer parts to wire than if you use separate EPROM/FLASH and I/O devices. Note that the 8755 i/o works somewhat differently than the 8255.

-Nathan


There's quite a bit that you can learn about digital electronics, and about the discipline of programming, which is often lacking, by breathing life back into some of these old parts. Unfortunately, you'll have little experience useful with current-generation I/O techniques when you're done. Today's stuff uses SPI, I2C, and other interfaces that weren't used back then, and the parallel methods used when the 8048 and early 805x's were popular, are unpopular today for a number of reasons that will become obvious.

The 8048 series, BTW, used I/O features, while 805x types don't support any I/O instructions. When you start messing around with both MCU types, the impact of this will become apparent.

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List of 38 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Interfacing W83C43\P8755 with 8052 family            01/01/70 00:00      
   Looks Posible            01/01/70 00:00      
      less, but still            01/01/70 00:00      
         not necessarily the case            01/01/70 00:00      
   Please Describe the Situation...            01/01/70 00:00      
      the Situation...            01/01/70 00:00      
         OK            01/01/70 00:00      
            microcomputers            01/01/70 00:00      
               renamed??            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Sorry            01/01/70 00:00      
                  maybe today ... but back when they were popular ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     and yet you advocate ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        What?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Good luck with that ...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Serial EEPROM            01/01/70 00:00      
               does the 8051 family support I2C?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Do they actually work?            01/01/70 00:00      
            You have the same question with "new" parts            01/01/70 00:00      
               I don't know about the US...            01/01/70 00:00      
                   I do know about the US...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Good deliveries            01/01/70 00:00      
               pure paranoia            01/01/70 00:00      
   i8755 wasn't exclusively for the 8048 family            01/01/70 00:00      
      Mr anachronism            01/01/70 00:00      
         My point was ...            01/01/70 00:00      
            name one            01/01/70 00:00      
               consider the O/P's situation            01/01/70 00:00      
                  voltage regulators            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Programming old parts            01/01/70 00:00      
                        And if putting out ~100$ US...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        throwing good money after bad            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Catch 22            01/01/70 00:00      
                        The catch is            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Yes            01/01/70 00:00      
                           it depends on what your goals are            01/01/70 00:00      
                              True - but check how the goal was set            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Sometimes it is easy to justify, sometimes not            01/01/70 00:00      
               RE: "no value" (sic)            01/01/70 00:00      

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