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09/02/06 08:03
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#123570 - some noise
Responding to: ???'s previous message
No, the regulator is far from being hot. It is supplied from 12V, on my desk it is a proven good switcher; but the circuit draws some 50mA, power loss is not an issue.

I still think they are rejects, reagrdless of that they "fit" within the specified 5% (or, slightly less at room temperature, but still these pieces fit in). Pity they won't drift more when baked, I'd have an excuse to dump them at the supplier... :-)

Yes, as a wrote above, there was some 200mV p/p noise measured at the reset's supply terminals, most of it at 66MHz (3rd harmonics of the oscillator). Some of it is crappy design (decoupling cap too far from that supply pin which is next to the oscillator). Some more little excuse for the designer: this was a redesign and the predecessor of this circuit was based on AT89C4051 - I checked, that one does not exhibit the noise at 66MHz. I'd guess that this might be due to the faster process used for uPSD3212 (which is specified to go up to 40MHz).

JW


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TopicAuthorDate
78x05 output voltage tolerance            01/01/70 00:00      
   5%            01/01/70 00:00      
   Selection needed...            01/01/70 00:00      
      5%, 10%, it's all there            01/01/70 00:00      
         for decades, 5% was "standard." What's changed?            01/01/70 00:00      
         What standard do you mean??            01/01/70 00:00      
            "if"            01/01/70 00:00      
               Don't you test your circuits?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  it's already a pain...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     if you do, I'll take my cap off to you :)            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Consider the specifications            01/01/70 00:00      
   is it a Microchip supervisor?            01/01/70 00:00      
      the conclusion            01/01/70 00:00      
         No such thing as luck in any acceptable design sce            01/01/70 00:00      
            everyday we learn something...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Check it with a >5.0V outputting 7805!            01/01/70 00:00      
            it will work...            01/01/70 00:00      
               oh 'testing'            01/01/70 00:00      
            Getting more than 5 v from 7805            01/01/70 00:00      
               I would use a resistor instead of a diode            01/01/70 00:00      
                  see the datasheet, it shows how to do that...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     It's noise, I guess...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        some noise            01/01/70 00:00      
               the u (micro) is only specified to 5.25 or 5.5 Vol            01/01/70 00:00      
   I just had an idea...            01/01/70 00:00      
      Don't go off chasing that rabbit!            01/01/70 00:00      
         digital design practice            01/01/70 00:00      
            Safe side...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Exactly            01/01/70 00:00      
      Getting low output...            01/01/70 00:00      
   get this in your head            01/01/70 00:00      
      Not so fast...            01/01/70 00:00      
         oh, how many designs have failed because            01/01/70 00:00      
            No, no, I have not said this            01/01/70 00:00      
            it depends on the source ...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Yes,...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  There's a critical difference ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Of course, there is!!            01/01/70 00:00      
                        whst do you refer to?            01/01/70 00:00      
                           This was in the '70's, before many restrictions            01/01/70 00:00      
                              caught by "legal relabeling".            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 That's not what I remember            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    continuing the story            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       The way it used to work ...            01/01/70 00:00      

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