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09/01/06 21:28
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#123553 - digital design practice
Responding to: ???'s previous message
OK, so let's calculate.

A 5% regulator on 5V that means 4.75V min.

10% tolerant chips (including the mcu), that's 4.5V min.

I need a reset chip, which certainly kicks in sooner than the mcu dies. That's above 4.5V. But, it shouldn't kick in with "normal" supply, that's 4.75V.
Add some margin, for noise and voltage drop. What about 100mV, that's really not too much in 5V digital circuits.

That leaves us a tolerance for reset of 4.6V-4.65V.

Now, show me that reset chip.

Now, get real. And, be honest, how do YOU solve this puzzle. Do you stay absolutely on the safe side, always?

Jan Waclawek


List of 44 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
78x05 output voltage tolerance            01/01/70 00:00      
   5%            01/01/70 00:00      
   Selection needed...            01/01/70 00:00      
      5%, 10%, it's all there            01/01/70 00:00      
         for decades, 5% was "standard." What's changed?            01/01/70 00:00      
         What standard do you mean??            01/01/70 00:00      
            "if"            01/01/70 00:00      
               Don't you test your circuits?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  it's already a pain...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     if you do, I'll take my cap off to you :)            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Consider the specifications            01/01/70 00:00      
   is it a Microchip supervisor?            01/01/70 00:00      
      the conclusion            01/01/70 00:00      
         No such thing as luck in any acceptable design sce            01/01/70 00:00      
            everyday we learn something...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Check it with a >5.0V outputting 7805!            01/01/70 00:00      
            it will work...            01/01/70 00:00      
               oh 'testing'            01/01/70 00:00      
            Getting more than 5 v from 7805            01/01/70 00:00      
               I would use a resistor instead of a diode            01/01/70 00:00      
                  see the datasheet, it shows how to do that...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     It's noise, I guess...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        some noise            01/01/70 00:00      
               the u (micro) is only specified to 5.25 or 5.5 Vol            01/01/70 00:00      
   I just had an idea...            01/01/70 00:00      
      Don't go off chasing that rabbit!            01/01/70 00:00      
         digital design practice            01/01/70 00:00      
            Safe side...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Exactly            01/01/70 00:00      
      Getting low output...            01/01/70 00:00      
   get this in your head            01/01/70 00:00      
      Not so fast...            01/01/70 00:00      
         oh, how many designs have failed because            01/01/70 00:00      
            No, no, I have not said this            01/01/70 00:00      
            it depends on the source ...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Yes,...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  There's a critical difference ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Of course, there is!!            01/01/70 00:00      
                        whst do you refer to?            01/01/70 00:00      
                           This was in the '70's, before many restrictions            01/01/70 00:00      
                              caught by "legal relabeling".            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 That's not what I remember            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    continuing the story            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       The way it used to work ...            01/01/70 00:00      

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