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09/02/06 04:08
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#123559 - Safe side...
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Jan said:
That leaves us a tolerance for reset of 4.6V-4.65V.

Now, show me that reset chip.

Now, get real. And, be honest, how do YOU solve this puzzle. Do you stay absolutely on the safe side, always?

Yes, Jan, your analysis is correct!

Again, I use MAX1232, showing a trip voltage of typically 4.62V, (worst case: 4.5V...4.75V) AND a selected 7805, outputting more than 5.0V. Have enough headroom on the design (levels, timing) that your circuit will perfectly work even at "only" 4.5V, though.

Overall, I gues that you have a noise problem! Do you have a solid ground plane? If not, then this is the source of your problems...

On noisy boards it can help to supply the reset controller not directly by Vcc, but via a RC-low pass filter. 10R + 100nF can help a lot!

Kai



List of 44 messages in thread
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78x05 output voltage tolerance            01/01/70 00:00      
   5%            01/01/70 00:00      
   Selection needed...            01/01/70 00:00      
      5%, 10%, it's all there            01/01/70 00:00      
         for decades, 5% was "standard." What's changed?            01/01/70 00:00      
         What standard do you mean??            01/01/70 00:00      
            "if"            01/01/70 00:00      
               Don't you test your circuits?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  it's already a pain...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     if you do, I'll take my cap off to you :)            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Consider the specifications            01/01/70 00:00      
   is it a Microchip supervisor?            01/01/70 00:00      
      the conclusion            01/01/70 00:00      
         No such thing as luck in any acceptable design sce            01/01/70 00:00      
            everyday we learn something...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Check it with a >5.0V outputting 7805!            01/01/70 00:00      
            it will work...            01/01/70 00:00      
               oh 'testing'            01/01/70 00:00      
            Getting more than 5 v from 7805            01/01/70 00:00      
               I would use a resistor instead of a diode            01/01/70 00:00      
                  see the datasheet, it shows how to do that...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     It's noise, I guess...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        some noise            01/01/70 00:00      
               the u (micro) is only specified to 5.25 or 5.5 Vol            01/01/70 00:00      
   I just had an idea...            01/01/70 00:00      
      Don't go off chasing that rabbit!            01/01/70 00:00      
         digital design practice            01/01/70 00:00      
            Safe side...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Exactly            01/01/70 00:00      
      Getting low output...            01/01/70 00:00      
   get this in your head            01/01/70 00:00      
      Not so fast...            01/01/70 00:00      
         oh, how many designs have failed because            01/01/70 00:00      
            No, no, I have not said this            01/01/70 00:00      
            it depends on the source ...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Yes,...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  There's a critical difference ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Of course, there is!!            01/01/70 00:00      
                        whst do you refer to?            01/01/70 00:00      
                           This was in the '70's, before many restrictions            01/01/70 00:00      
                              caught by "legal relabeling".            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 That's not what I remember            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    continuing the story            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       The way it used to work ...            01/01/70 00:00      

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