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10/16/09 18:43
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#169806 - - as in bad post
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No, I did not discuss the 'Answer is wrong' vote from our previous debate, Richard. That is your view. My view is that such a design is broken. You can run a car on two wheels, but that is still the wrong way. All part of a totally separate debate.

I have on at least two occasions seen two people debate on this forum. Both persons having good arguments for their view. One of them having an 'answer is wrong' or similar. Then I have returned to the thread the day after and finds the same thing. The same person have now received yet one more 'answer is wrong' or 'message not useful'. I prefer to not try to locate the debates, since I don't want to imply names. I find it more important to note that it is hard for people to defend themselves from anonymous critique.

But look at this specific thread. The original post contains two questions:
1: So firstly, they mostly operate on 5V right?
2: can you recommend a suitable and reliable supervisor chip for this family?

Do you see a reason for flagging the thread as 'Looks like school work'? Do you see a reason why we should ignore the thread?

For #1, it is not so easy to search for an answer. Locating 100 variants and compute the statistics? But would that statistics be relevant, since the industry is moving towards lower voltages. And how do you count processors that can run use a wide span of voltages. Google is bad at showing what processors that are currently used for new designs, allowing you to deduce what it looks like "today".

#2 is has a different problem. Datasheets will tell how great they all are. But we all know that not all suppliers are 100% truthful when describing their products. Think about your love for Atmel. So there are good reasons for asking the question, and receiving answers to it would not be different from a student trying to call a distributor to get some feedback.

So the question is then: What reason is it to cast a negative vote "Looks like homework" when the first sentence of the post describes the situation? And remember that it is a negative vote. Explicitly shown with a '-' when casting, and with a '-' when browsing. It really takes some form of an agenda to cast that vote.

Richard said:
I've suggested some things that would significantly reduce the number of off-topic, looks-like-homework, didn't-search-first, and other common votes, which, I guess, can be seen as comments.

If they are intended to be seen as comments, then they should not be given a weight of -1, and show up as a negative weight when viewing the recent history for a poster. They represent something completely different from the +/- votes some sites have to the question "was this answer helpful?" A great answer need not be helpful - if you have a bug possibly located in one of 10 places, then 10 people can suggest one place each, but only one catches the correct place. Even if the 9 other suggestions didn't lead to the bug being found, they do not represent bad answers. But the - votes here very much imply a "bad post".

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TopicAuthorDate
University Project            01/01/70 00:00      
   MAX1232            01/01/70 00:00      
      max232/1232            01/01/70 00:00      
         232/1232            01/01/70 00:00      
            Supervisor chip            01/01/70 00:00      
               supervisor - understood, now for timing            01/01/70 00:00      
         If this is a petro car            01/01/70 00:00      
            automotive grade regulator?            01/01/70 00:00      
               Then you may not need it            01/01/70 00:00      
                  power supply            01/01/70 00:00      
   Timing Requirements            01/01/70 00:00      
      timing requirements            01/01/70 00:00      
         some points            01/01/70 00:00      
            timing requirements            01/01/70 00:00      
               Fast            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Can bus            01/01/70 00:00      
                     CAN            01/01/70 00:00      
                        can controller            01/01/70 00:00      
                     8052s with built-in CAN            01/01/70 00:00      
                        micro related search engines            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Selecting a micro            01/01/70 00:00      
                              MANY thanks!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 on a mac            01/01/70 00:00      
                     the SILabs f04x series            01/01/70 00:00      
                        RE: I do not know if the Keil database has CAN as a field            01/01/70 00:00      
                           thanks            01/01/70 00:00      
                              some sort of ultimate search enginge            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 we need...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 if we could just organize THIS site better            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    That's a separate discussion!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Kill voting, or make it non-anonymous            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Per, you apply for a job as moderator?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             I see that you are agreeing            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                What do you think the purpose of 8052.COM is?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          The votes are not well-enough defined            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          That's YOUR opinion ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             - as in bad post            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                maybe something should take its place            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   something softer would be better            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      Just rectify it in the next thread            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         Yes            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Microchip has a CAN Chip            01/01/70 00:00      
                        seperate SPI chip for CAN            01/01/70 00:00      
   they mostly operate on 5V right?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Good question            01/01/70 00:00      
      No homework?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Yes, it's homework            01/01/70 00:00      
            Do you think...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Yes, I think            01/01/70 00:00      
               Come on, Kai ... Yogesh CLEARLY hadn't done anything ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Ok, I see I'm alone here with my arguments...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Actually...            01/01/70 00:00      
               If you actually read my response            01/01/70 00:00      
                  no you don't...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     If you are sooooo worried            01/01/70 00:00      
                        I'm not worried at all, Erik            01/01/70 00:00      
               New thread            01/01/70 00:00      
                  in particular...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Collateral damage            01/01/70 00:00      
      lol            01/01/70 00:00      
      and not an SMS-ism in sight!            01/01/70 00:00      
         sms-ism            01/01/70 00:00      
            Nooooooooooooooooooo!            01/01/70 00:00      
               animated avitars            01/01/70 00:00      
                  avatar            01/01/70 00:00      

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