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10/14/09 16:27
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#169702 - 232/1232
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Joel said:
Ah, I was getting mixed up between the 232 and 1232 for a second, could you confirm this for me a) the max232 is for allowing serial connection, using for example ISP/ICP and b) the max1232 is a supervisor circuit monitoring the supply voltage and managing the reset etc, instead of a hard reset.


Yes, the MAX232 is for serial communication. Not all micros do ISP using the serial port, though. The AT89S52 from the example has special ISP lines for this and does not use the serial port. Yes, the MAX1232 is a reset and supply voltage supervisory chip.

Joel said:
I have read several threads on various supervisor chips several on 3V3 and 5V applications, and at the end of one someone was talking about designing a more reliable power supply and masterboard. I now cannot find the thread, but can you comment on what makes a setup reliable. What is necessary for example?


This was Richard, who has an own theory about this issue. He is thinking that slow supply voltage rises and falls are responsible for flash memory corruption and not the absence of proper reset signal. Nobody else is thinking like him here, to say this very kindly. The use of a proper reset and supply voltage supervisory chip is a must with todays flash code memory micros!!! Some of the micros already contain such a reset circuitry and don't need an external chip.

Joel said:
For my project the system may run from the 12 battery, to a 12V-24V DC converter to a regulator for 5V supply to the microcontroller, and 24V supply going to the electronically operated valves which control compressed CO2 flow into a pneumatic actuator. OR the system may run on serial connection of several Ni(Cd/H) batteries. I am unsure of how the supervisor would control the controller in each of these turn on conditions.


The controller checks the supply voltage and resets the micro during power ups, power downs and brown-out conditions. For this it is essential to provide a precise and stable 5V supply voltage for the micro and the reset chip. Every standard voltage regulator like the LM7805 or similar can do this.

Kai Klaas

List of 65 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
University Project            01/01/70 00:00      
   MAX1232            01/01/70 00:00      
      max232/1232            01/01/70 00:00      
         232/1232            01/01/70 00:00      
            Supervisor chip            01/01/70 00:00      
               supervisor - understood, now for timing            01/01/70 00:00      
         If this is a petro car            01/01/70 00:00      
            automotive grade regulator?            01/01/70 00:00      
               Then you may not need it            01/01/70 00:00      
                  power supply            01/01/70 00:00      
   Timing Requirements            01/01/70 00:00      
      timing requirements            01/01/70 00:00      
         some points            01/01/70 00:00      
            timing requirements            01/01/70 00:00      
               Fast            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Can bus            01/01/70 00:00      
                     CAN            01/01/70 00:00      
                        can controller            01/01/70 00:00      
                     8052s with built-in CAN            01/01/70 00:00      
                        micro related search engines            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Selecting a micro            01/01/70 00:00      
                              MANY thanks!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 on a mac            01/01/70 00:00      
                     the SILabs f04x series            01/01/70 00:00      
                        RE: I do not know if the Keil database has CAN as a field            01/01/70 00:00      
                           thanks            01/01/70 00:00      
                              some sort of ultimate search enginge            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 we need...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 if we could just organize THIS site better            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    That's a separate discussion!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Kill voting, or make it non-anonymous            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Per, you apply for a job as moderator?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             I see that you are agreeing            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                What do you think the purpose of 8052.COM is?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          The votes are not well-enough defined            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          That's YOUR opinion ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             - as in bad post            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                maybe something should take its place            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   something softer would be better            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      Just rectify it in the next thread            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         Yes            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Microchip has a CAN Chip            01/01/70 00:00      
                        seperate SPI chip for CAN            01/01/70 00:00      
   they mostly operate on 5V right?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Good question            01/01/70 00:00      
      No homework?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Yes, it's homework            01/01/70 00:00      
            Do you think...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Yes, I think            01/01/70 00:00      
               Come on, Kai ... Yogesh CLEARLY hadn't done anything ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Ok, I see I'm alone here with my arguments...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Actually...            01/01/70 00:00      
               If you actually read my response            01/01/70 00:00      
                  no you don't...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     If you are sooooo worried            01/01/70 00:00      
                        I'm not worried at all, Erik            01/01/70 00:00      
               New thread            01/01/70 00:00      
                  in particular...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Collateral damage            01/01/70 00:00      
      lol            01/01/70 00:00      
      and not an SMS-ism in sight!            01/01/70 00:00      
         sms-ism            01/01/70 00:00      
            Nooooooooooooooooooo!            01/01/70 00:00      
               animated avitars            01/01/70 00:00      
                  avatar            01/01/70 00:00      

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