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10/14/09 16:43
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#169703 - Supervisor chip
Responding to: ???'s previous message
The supervisor chip will not see the 12V from the car battery, or the voltage from any NiMH battery pack.

The supervisor chip will only look at the output from the 5V regulator. It will not release the reset line until a fixed time after the 5V voltage has stabilized. And it will reactivate the reset line instantly if the 5V drops below a threshold.

As noted, some processors has brownout functionality internally, i.e. that they will stop the processor when the voltage drops. Some of the internal brownout solutions can work in two-step mode. At one voltage level, they generate a warning to the processor: Quickly save any pending work - power is dropping. At a second voltage level, they put the chip in reset state.

If using a chip with internal reset + brownout handling - do ask around or spend some time with Google to see if any people have had problems with the logic. There are a couple of processors that does not have as good reset/brownout logic as the manufacturer claims.

Note that depending on your needs, you will also be able to find 3.3V processors and 3.3V supervisor chips. Just remember that the supervisor chip must have the same polarity of the reset signal as your processor. Most processors have active low reset, so most supervisor chips have an active low output. When using a 8051 with active high reset, you obviously must make sure that the supervisor chip produces an active high reset signal.

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University Project            01/01/70 00:00      
   MAX1232            01/01/70 00:00      
      max232/1232            01/01/70 00:00      
         232/1232            01/01/70 00:00      
            Supervisor chip            01/01/70 00:00      
               supervisor - understood, now for timing            01/01/70 00:00      
         If this is a petro car            01/01/70 00:00      
            automotive grade regulator?            01/01/70 00:00      
               Then you may not need it            01/01/70 00:00      
                  power supply            01/01/70 00:00      
   Timing Requirements            01/01/70 00:00      
      timing requirements            01/01/70 00:00      
         some points            01/01/70 00:00      
            timing requirements            01/01/70 00:00      
               Fast            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Can bus            01/01/70 00:00      
                     CAN            01/01/70 00:00      
                        can controller            01/01/70 00:00      
                     8052s with built-in CAN            01/01/70 00:00      
                        micro related search engines            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Selecting a micro            01/01/70 00:00      
                              MANY thanks!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 on a mac            01/01/70 00:00      
                     the SILabs f04x series            01/01/70 00:00      
                        RE: I do not know if the Keil database has CAN as a field            01/01/70 00:00      
                           thanks            01/01/70 00:00      
                              some sort of ultimate search enginge            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 we need...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 if we could just organize THIS site better            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    That's a separate discussion!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Kill voting, or make it non-anonymous            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Per, you apply for a job as moderator?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             I see that you are agreeing            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                What do you think the purpose of 8052.COM is?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          The votes are not well-enough defined            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          That's YOUR opinion ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             - as in bad post            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                maybe something should take its place            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   something softer would be better            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      Just rectify it in the next thread            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         Yes            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Microchip has a CAN Chip            01/01/70 00:00      
                        seperate SPI chip for CAN            01/01/70 00:00      
   they mostly operate on 5V right?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Good question            01/01/70 00:00      
      No homework?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Yes, it's homework            01/01/70 00:00      
            Do you think...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Yes, I think            01/01/70 00:00      
               Come on, Kai ... Yogesh CLEARLY hadn't done anything ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Ok, I see I'm alone here with my arguments...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Actually...            01/01/70 00:00      
               If you actually read my response            01/01/70 00:00      
                  no you don't...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     If you are sooooo worried            01/01/70 00:00      
                        I'm not worried at all, Erik            01/01/70 00:00      
               New thread            01/01/70 00:00      
                  in particular...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Collateral damage            01/01/70 00:00      
      lol            01/01/70 00:00      
      and not an SMS-ism in sight!            01/01/70 00:00      
         sms-ism            01/01/70 00:00      
            Nooooooooooooooooooo!            01/01/70 00:00      
               animated avitars            01/01/70 00:00      
                  avatar            01/01/70 00:00      

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