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04/22/09 13:16
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#164786 - A number of USB modules with naughty tricks
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Andy Neil said:
Take a look at this: http://www.filesaveas.com/3mobilebroadband.html

http://www.filesaveas.com/3mobilebroadband.html said:
When we opened our ZTE box, we expected to find a software CD included, but there wasn't - it's more clever than that. The modem has some onboard storage, and when you first connect it to a PC, plug-and-play kicks in and an Autorun program starts up and installs the modem driver and connection program.

How on earth do you think you're going to manage that on an 8051??!!

Yes, we have exactly that function on a HSDPA module too. It took a while to manage to get a Linux driver that could reconfigure the modem from being a memory containing the Windows drivers into being a serial port accepting AT commands. We got VIP treatment because of volumes and partnership with big telcos. For some modules, it can be very, very hard to get the required information unless you are big enough to interest the manufacturer or one of their bigger distributors.

Because of this, projects should start by a proof-of-concept before settling for the final solution.

With the introduction of USB interfaces, the modules are quickly walking further and further away from the old Hayes modem standard. The manufacturers are taking advantage of the capabilities possible with USB, but that means that you can never take anything for granted. You have to be sceptical until it has been proven that something works.

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TopicAuthorDate
How do I interface a usb hsdpa modem?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Needs a USB Host            01/01/70 00:00      
      I agree with Andy            01/01/70 00:00      
         UART on the way out            01/01/70 00:00      
         USB Hsdpa Modem is what I have            01/01/70 00:00      
            Irrelevant            01/01/70 00:00      
            Hidden costs            01/01/70 00:00      
   USB for highspeed            01/01/70 00:00      
      Still needs a host            01/01/70 00:00      
         Follow            01/01/70 00:00      
            Vinculum (VNC1)            01/01/70 00:00      
            USB 3G Modems            01/01/70 00:00      
      Bigger processor core needed for USB host            01/01/70 00:00      
         RE: USB Wireless modem is cheaper            01/01/70 00:00      
            Same same            01/01/70 00:00      
               Not just for USB host            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Winmodem/Winprinter...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  GSM WinModem/Softmodem?            01/01/70 00:00      
               Not quite - more of the same!            01/01/70 00:00      
               And an IP Stack?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  What is your expected production volume            01/01/70 00:00      
   PL2303            01/01/70 00:00      
      You still haven't said what the "problem" actually is!            01/01/70 00:00      
         Typo - PL203            01/01/70 00:00      
      You dont get the point do you            01/01/70 00:00      
   Vinculum VNC1L USB Host DIP Module            01/01/70 00:00      
   Vinculum VNC1L USB Host DIP Module            01/01/70 00:00      
      this seems to be the right solution            01/01/70 00:00      
         Can be problem to connect and use USB modems            01/01/70 00:00      
            the trick is            01/01/70 00:00      
               Easy for RS232            01/01/70 00:00      
         ZTE MF622            01/01/70 00:00      
            RE: ZTE MF622            01/01/70 00:00      
               Yes, thats the one            01/01/70 00:00      
                  I already developed a vb program            01/01/70 00:00      
                     geez man, you are very good!            01/01/70 00:00      
                        hsdpa is very cheap            01/01/70 00:00      
                           yes i am sure            01/01/70 00:00      
                              The running costs - not the hardware cost            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Check tariff carefully!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    it's very cheap here in india            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       0.025 cent?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Wow!!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          sometimes happen            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             I am planning to use other mcus            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                well done...very high tech            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   8052 is what i am goining to use            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      Saving money by spending money            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         Which ARM Chips is that?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                            Parametric search            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                               There is no USB Host Option            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                  Have you used the parametric search yet?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                     ds89c430 or AT91RM9200?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                        Too wide question            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                           USB OTH -> USB OTG            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                  RE: there is only USART option            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      Makes no sense            01/01/70 00:00      
                              RE: lot of other apps            01/01/70 00:00      
                     relies totally upon having a PC with Windows            01/01/70 00:00      
                        A number of USB modules with naughty tricks            01/01/70 00:00      
               Using Ferarri for race            01/01/70 00:00      
                  actually            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Bing makes design decisions first, then creates the threads            01/01/70 00:00      
                        firmwre documentattion link            01/01/70 00:00      
                           That's not what you need!            01/01/70 00:00      
                              something with powerfull            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Still useless without the necessary documentation!            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Nice Metaphors            01/01/70 00:00      

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