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10/21/12 20:14
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#188730 - i have read that and it is a classic
Responding to: ???'s previous message
But I don't think you can call atheism a religion, its s strongly held belief and it guide my ideas about what is right and wrong and the idea that at the end of the day there is nobody and nothing which is going to absolve you of your sins, its just my personal belief that you have to be grown up about things and realise that asking god for stuff isn't going to get you very far.
I suppose the one thing which drives any non theist absolutely crackers is this idea that you can only have any strong morals if they have been handed to you in some religious book.The the absolute refusal to recognize the fact that of you lived in some other part of the world then you would have some other religious book which contains some other moral beliefs.

You can take Godel's theorem to mean all kinds of things from the failure of all formal self consistent systems of maths all the way to meaning that you can never really find the true answer to anything.


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oooh you should come and peer at my new blog            01/01/70 00:00      
   Mine too!            01/01/70 00:00      
      so here is an interesting question for you Joseph            01/01/70 00:00      
         As a christian             01/01/70 00:00      
         As a Christian ...            01/01/70 00:00      
            this reminds me ..            01/01/70 00:00      
               3rd Rewrite            01/01/70 00:00      
            ah yes but            01/01/70 00:00      
               I only ask because            01/01/70 00:00      
               My point exactly.            01/01/70 00:00      
                  i have read that and it is a classic            01/01/70 00:00      
                     anyway you could join this church            01/01/70 00:00      
                     finding meaning and religion            01/01/70 00:00      
                        I have no idea            01/01/70 00:00      
                     contradicted in the bible            01/01/70 00:00      
         You are out of reach of Plato            01/01/70 00:00      
      Hi            01/01/70 00:00      
         Likewise            01/01/70 00:00      
            hey Joe            01/01/70 00:00      
               Belief            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Ultimately, it comes down to a personal choice            01/01/70 00:00      
                  yes but            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Roll your own religin            01/01/70 00:00      
                  here is my proof            01/01/70 00:00      
                     just a minute ...             01/01/70 00:00      
               I see.            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Isn't it enough that he's comfortable with his beliefs?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     The whole point Richard            01/01/70 00:00      
                  No joe            01/01/70 00:00      
                     logically inconsistent - Jez            01/01/70 00:00      
                     No, Jez...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        I don't believe because...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           I see...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Occams Razor            01/01/70 00:00      
                              elegant, never heard that one before            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Not original            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Scientifically simple and Occams razor            01/01/70 00:00      
                     No Jez, some more ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Why not just let 'em believe what makes 'em comfortable?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Well normally I would agree with you richard            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Beware of theories            01/01/70 00:00      
                           The danger lies in "US vs THEM"             01/01/70 00:00      
                           Yes, yes, we know. We're all a bunch of nutters, ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Careful, now            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Case in point?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Here's a thought ...             01/01/70 00:00      
                                       That's what I thought.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 I (dis)agree            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    and it's because of that, that I attend none            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    It'm not painting them all with the same brush            01/01/70 00:00      

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