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10/21/12 07:39
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#188722 - so here is an interesting question for you Joseph
Responding to: ???'s previous message
As a christian
Do you believe that the maths which describes the universe, does it exist outside the universe or come into being because god created everything, does god understand how his universe works or is he above all that kind of thing?
Is in fact reality just some kind of joke?

I ask these questions because although I am an atheist I am interested in what theists believe.

Cos old Plato, he thought that maths and numbers existed independently or the world, as real entities. Hence Platonic relationships being pure and unsullied by throbing lust

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oooh you should come and peer at my new blog            01/01/70 00:00      
   Mine too!            01/01/70 00:00      
      so here is an interesting question for you Joseph            01/01/70 00:00      
         As a christian             01/01/70 00:00      
         As a Christian ...            01/01/70 00:00      
            this reminds me ..            01/01/70 00:00      
               3rd Rewrite            01/01/70 00:00      
            ah yes but            01/01/70 00:00      
               I only ask because            01/01/70 00:00      
               My point exactly.            01/01/70 00:00      
                  i have read that and it is a classic            01/01/70 00:00      
                     anyway you could join this church            01/01/70 00:00      
                     finding meaning and religion            01/01/70 00:00      
                        I have no idea            01/01/70 00:00      
                     contradicted in the bible            01/01/70 00:00      
         You are out of reach of Plato            01/01/70 00:00      
      Hi            01/01/70 00:00      
         Likewise            01/01/70 00:00      
            hey Joe            01/01/70 00:00      
               Belief            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Ultimately, it comes down to a personal choice            01/01/70 00:00      
                  yes but            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Roll your own religin            01/01/70 00:00      
                  here is my proof            01/01/70 00:00      
                     just a minute ...             01/01/70 00:00      
               I see.            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Isn't it enough that he's comfortable with his beliefs?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     The whole point Richard            01/01/70 00:00      
                  No joe            01/01/70 00:00      
                     logically inconsistent - Jez            01/01/70 00:00      
                     No, Jez...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        I don't believe because...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           I see...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Occams Razor            01/01/70 00:00      
                              elegant, never heard that one before            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Not original            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Scientifically simple and Occams razor            01/01/70 00:00      
                     No Jez, some more ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Why not just let 'em believe what makes 'em comfortable?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Well normally I would agree with you richard            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Beware of theories            01/01/70 00:00      
                           The danger lies in "US vs THEM"             01/01/70 00:00      
                           Yes, yes, we know. We're all a bunch of nutters, ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Careful, now            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Case in point?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Here's a thought ...             01/01/70 00:00      
                                       That's what I thought.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 I (dis)agree            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    and it's because of that, that I attend none            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    It'm not painting them all with the same brush            01/01/70 00:00      

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