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10/21/12 16:08
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#188726 - ah yes but
Responding to: ???'s previous message

See maths is much more than just a language, Plato understood that much, it describes our universe so...
does your god understand the maths? it is a simple question, yes or no will suffice

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Thats an old school boy trick it just shows that maths as a language is open to the same misuse and any other, in much the same way that you can say 1+1=3 for large enough values of 1
what i am interested in is does maths describe the universe as it was as you believe, created or is it just a trick are we deluding ourselves to believe that we can ever understand something which is designed by an omnipotent being? which is again an idea which is meaningless from a human perspective.
And does this omnipotent being himself understand how it all works, is your god a mathematician ? being omnipotent can your god set a maths problem which he cannot solve?

If he can set a problem that he cannot solve then he is not omnipotent and if he cannot set a problem which he cannot solve then is he is not omnipotent.

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oooh you should come and peer at my new blog            01/01/70 00:00      
   Mine too!            01/01/70 00:00      
      so here is an interesting question for you Joseph            01/01/70 00:00      
         As a christian             01/01/70 00:00      
         As a Christian ...            01/01/70 00:00      
            this reminds me ..            01/01/70 00:00      
               3rd Rewrite            01/01/70 00:00      
            ah yes but            01/01/70 00:00      
               I only ask because            01/01/70 00:00      
               My point exactly.            01/01/70 00:00      
                  i have read that and it is a classic            01/01/70 00:00      
                     anyway you could join this church            01/01/70 00:00      
                     finding meaning and religion            01/01/70 00:00      
                        I have no idea            01/01/70 00:00      
                     contradicted in the bible            01/01/70 00:00      
         You are out of reach of Plato            01/01/70 00:00      
      Hi            01/01/70 00:00      
         Likewise            01/01/70 00:00      
            hey Joe            01/01/70 00:00      
               Belief            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Ultimately, it comes down to a personal choice            01/01/70 00:00      
                  yes but            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Roll your own religin            01/01/70 00:00      
                  here is my proof            01/01/70 00:00      
                     just a minute ...             01/01/70 00:00      
               I see.            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Isn't it enough that he's comfortable with his beliefs?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     The whole point Richard            01/01/70 00:00      
                  No joe            01/01/70 00:00      
                     logically inconsistent - Jez            01/01/70 00:00      
                     No, Jez...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        I don't believe because...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           I see...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Occams Razor            01/01/70 00:00      
                              elegant, never heard that one before            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Not original            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Scientifically simple and Occams razor            01/01/70 00:00      
                     No Jez, some more ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Why not just let 'em believe what makes 'em comfortable?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Well normally I would agree with you richard            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Beware of theories            01/01/70 00:00      
                           The danger lies in "US vs THEM"             01/01/70 00:00      
                           Yes, yes, we know. We're all a bunch of nutters, ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Careful, now            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Case in point?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Here's a thought ...             01/01/70 00:00      
                                       That's what I thought.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 I (dis)agree            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    and it's because of that, that I attend none            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    It'm not painting them all with the same brush            01/01/70 00:00      

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