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12/27/10 19:16
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#180306 - Broad span of resources available
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Andy Peters said:
I really don't get the hobbyist mentality. Maybe it's because I do this for a living.

Most of commercial developers have:
- very little spare time to play around, so it's most economical to buy things if it saves times
- enough income to be able to buy their equipment tax free.

Quite a lot of hobbyists have almost no money at all to spend on their hobby. But they may sometimes have almost infinite amounts of time.

When in school, I did not have much money to spend on components. So I did desolder components and reused. Recommendable? Of course not. But it allowed me to build things I could afford to build any other way - or at least it allowed me to build them quicker.

A Z80 might cost $20 and with all the external components needed, it took a long time to get all parts to build something. The mass-market prices for components are way lower now, but the local stores with electronics components have gone away. So it some situations, it's just as expensive now to get components to a private project.

Besides - it's way more fun to have built everything from scratch, than just dropping some software into a ready-to-use dev-kit. Of course, I do prefer to use a dev-kit now, since I'm more interested in the final function than the path to get there.

But it really is important to notice the very broad span of availability and economical resources involved.


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[ARM] derivative choice            01/01/70 00:00      
   an illusion            01/01/70 00:00      
      ?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Possibility            01/01/70 00:00      
            pins and what they are            01/01/70 00:00      
               the reason to differentiate is...            01/01/70 00:00      
   None?            01/01/70 00:00      
   There's no PDIP pins            01/01/70 00:00      
   Product upgrade?            01/01/70 00:00      
      i'm not            01/01/70 00:00      
   Nuvoton NuMicro M051            01/01/70 00:00      
      Don't see it [Ed]            01/01/70 00:00      
         You cannot see it? c'mon! ;-)            01/01/70 00:00      
         pinout and compatibility            01/01/70 00:00      
   arn is not for hobbies            01/01/70 00:00      
      Oh yes it is!            01/01/70 00:00      
         I didn't type            01/01/70 00:00      
            Yes, you did!            01/01/70 00:00      
               Good hobby processor            01/01/70 00:00      
                  cheaper evaluation boards            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Debugging support really is vital            01/01/70 00:00      
                        debug            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Arduino            01/01/70 00:00      
                              silabs equivalent to arduino            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Broad span of resources available            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    absolutely, however            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Which means we must motivate people            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          toolstick is cheaper            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    re: broad span            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Imagination            01/01/70 00:00      
               I meant...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Not relevant            01/01/70 00:00      
                     but            01/01/70 00:00      
                        google            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Solder all - then clean up            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Agree ... it's all in the flux and wick            01/01/70 00:00      
                           hard to solder            01/01/70 00:00      
                              see 2 ways            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Hard to ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    You just aren't listening, are you?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       hard or not            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       re: just not listening            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Don't solder pad for pad            01/01/70 00:00      
                        oy            01/01/70 00:00      

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