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12/11/10 12:45
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#180077 - pinout and compatibility
Responding to: ???'s previous message
The pinout of the M0x is deliberately adjusted to the "biblical" '51 pinout. Look at it: if you cut 4 pins, each in one corner (those belonging to port P4), you'll get the same pinout as the usual QFP44 '51s come in quote for some time, and which is identical to the "biblical" DIP40 pinout rotated by a couple of pins. And we are talking about position of power pins (with some adjustments here and there), xtal pins, dedicated peripherals such as UART and SPI and I2C, and also the structure of general purpose ports! That's quite a difference from the "general" ARM offerings.

You might object that the package size etc. is different so one has to draw a new PCB anyway. Sure; but it's surely simpler when one has only to "shrink" the footprint of a single component, rather than to redesign everything. Also it appears to be simple to design a DIP40 adapter, when it comes to it. Also, Nuvoton offers most of their 12/6-clockers and some of the 4-clockers in a compatible LQFP48 package, and I would not be surprised if there would be other '51s in this package available.

The downside of this all is, that so far I was unable to buy a single Winbond/Nuvoton chip, and I've been trying for quite some time to get some of their LPCs and before that the RD2-equivalent (but the truth is that I was offered samples if I write a dummy project proposal, except I refused to do that as it would not be fair IMO). I also don't know how I would program them.

JW


List of 44 messages in thread
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[ARM] derivative choice            01/01/70 00:00      
   an illusion            01/01/70 00:00      
      ?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Possibility            01/01/70 00:00      
            pins and what they are            01/01/70 00:00      
               the reason to differentiate is...            01/01/70 00:00      
   None?            01/01/70 00:00      
   There's no PDIP pins            01/01/70 00:00      
   Product upgrade?            01/01/70 00:00      
      i'm not            01/01/70 00:00      
   Nuvoton NuMicro M051            01/01/70 00:00      
      Don't see it [Ed]            01/01/70 00:00      
         You cannot see it? c'mon! ;-)            01/01/70 00:00      
         pinout and compatibility            01/01/70 00:00      
   arn is not for hobbies            01/01/70 00:00      
      Oh yes it is!            01/01/70 00:00      
         I didn't type            01/01/70 00:00      
            Yes, you did!            01/01/70 00:00      
               Good hobby processor            01/01/70 00:00      
                  cheaper evaluation boards            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Debugging support really is vital            01/01/70 00:00      
                        debug            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Arduino            01/01/70 00:00      
                              silabs equivalent to arduino            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Broad span of resources available            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    absolutely, however            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Which means we must motivate people            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          toolstick is cheaper            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    re: broad span            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Imagination            01/01/70 00:00      
               I meant...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Not relevant            01/01/70 00:00      
                     but            01/01/70 00:00      
                        google            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Solder all - then clean up            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Agree ... it's all in the flux and wick            01/01/70 00:00      
                           hard to solder            01/01/70 00:00      
                              see 2 ways            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Hard to ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    You just aren't listening, are you?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       hard or not            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       re: just not listening            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Don't solder pad for pad            01/01/70 00:00      
                        oy            01/01/70 00:00      

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