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12/17/10 06:14
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 		 #180180 - but
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Andy Neil said:
Jecksons Ben said:
Cause the ARM always used "dongle pcb" to solder between PCB and ICs.

That's nothing specifically to do with ARM!
Apart from the antiques, there are few 8051s available in through-hole packages these days!

But a great many experimenters use ready-made boards anyhow - so the chip package is irrelevant.

Not easy to solder.

Note as easy to solder as 0.1" pitch DIP - but not really hard to solder; eg, see: http://www.8052.com/forumchat/read/179931




The 8 pins OK but what about more pins..it's horrible.I just facing FTDI with soldering iron station..huh very hard.

THank you
Jeckson

NB: some one interseting with barter?
http://www.avrfreaks.net/index.php...c&t=101243.

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[ARM] derivative choice            01/01/70 00:00      
   an illusion            01/01/70 00:00      
      ?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Possibility            01/01/70 00:00      
            pins and what they are            01/01/70 00:00      
               the reason to differentiate is...            01/01/70 00:00      
   None?            01/01/70 00:00      
   There's no PDIP pins            01/01/70 00:00      
   Product upgrade?            01/01/70 00:00      
      i'm not            01/01/70 00:00      
   Nuvoton NuMicro M051            01/01/70 00:00      
      Don't see it [Ed]            01/01/70 00:00      
         You cannot see it? c'mon! ;-)            01/01/70 00:00      
         pinout and compatibility            01/01/70 00:00      
   arn is not for hobbies            01/01/70 00:00      
      Oh yes it is!            01/01/70 00:00      
         I didn't type            01/01/70 00:00      
            Yes, you did!            01/01/70 00:00      
               Good hobby processor            01/01/70 00:00      
                  cheaper evaluation boards            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Debugging support really is vital            01/01/70 00:00      
                        debug            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Arduino            01/01/70 00:00      
                              silabs equivalent to arduino            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Broad span of resources available            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    absolutely, however            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Which means we must motivate people            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          toolstick is cheaper            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    re: broad span            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Imagination            01/01/70 00:00      
               I meant...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Not relevant            01/01/70 00:00      
                     but            01/01/70 00:00      
                        google            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Solder all - then clean up            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Agree ... it's all in the flux and wick            01/01/70 00:00      
                           hard to solder            01/01/70 00:00      
                              see 2 ways            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Hard to ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    You just aren't listening, are you?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       hard or not            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       re: just not listening            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Don't solder pad for pad            01/01/70 00:00      
                        oy            01/01/70 00:00      

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