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10/29/09 17:01
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 		 #170216 - not exactly
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Erik Malund said:
What's wrong with letting the O/P do what he wants, and, only after he's done that, point out the presumed error of his/her ways
those cases have all ended up with "MAKE WHAT I HAVE WORK DARN IT!"
Please show me any textbook that reads: "Do xyz and learn from the mistake"

Referring to responses you made in the past you have pointed out that some in Farawayistan may not have the funds to purchase suggested items. Now you want them to purchase what they think they should use, find out it does not work and then purchase what works.

Erik

I wouldn't expect them to buy anything!

I would expect them to explain why they have chosen what they've chosen, and, only after that is "on the table" would it be appropriate to discuss alternatives, beginning with "what is available for you to use?" After all, what's on hand is less costly and troublesome than what's not, even if more effort is needed in order to implement it.

Now, in some cases, it might be unrealistic expectation on the part of the O/P. I'm not hostile to offering suggestions once the reason for the presumed "wrong choice" is known. I do, however, oppose your frequent suggestion that a student flatly refuse to use a given component (e.g. i8255) that's present on a student's EVB, in favor of something that isn't present and can't easily be accommodated on that board, or, much worse, suggest a different (often SiLabs) MCU, which would of course, be unrealistic under such circumstances.

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List of 64 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Would separate Hard/Firm/Soft-ware sections help?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Perhaps we should revisit this notion            01/01/70 00:00      
      problems with the development tools            01/01/70 00:00      
         That's not what I meant ...            01/01/70 00:00      
      What is firmware and hardware before you have started?            01/01/70 00:00      
         I'm not so sure it's that narrow ...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Shades of gray            01/01/70 00:00      
               It's an analog world ... that means shades of grey            01/01/70 00:00      
                  But a large number of posters will guess            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Haven't you heard that saying ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Looking for lights            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Where you sit determines what you see            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Richard in grumpy mode            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 I know why...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    I doubt that's the case.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       You make a big mistake!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Show examples            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Oh Per, you are so self-satisfied...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Show examples. Tell what we can do different. Don't invent.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Per, somehow I think,...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    can't be both            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    I don't think so!            01/01/70 00:00      
   NO            01/01/70 00:00      
   No            01/01/70 00:00      
      apparently too "week" to afford a spell/syntax checker            01/01/70 00:00      
   hardware or software?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Neither, Either, or Both            01/01/70 00:00      
      It's not the precision of the category, but the thought            01/01/70 00:00      
   It might be an idea...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Then again            01/01/70 00:00      
   CPLD/FPGA, etc            01/01/70 00:00      
      The boundaries are blurring, aren't they?            01/01/70 00:00      
         That one's been blurred for many years!            01/01/70 00:00      
            That's not the point ...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Unfortunately not            01/01/70 00:00      
                  hitting the nail on the head            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Follows from volume and knowledge            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Well, maybe a pre-post examination is needed            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Maybe quite meaningful after all.            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Ask yourself, "Whom are we trying to help?"            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Already have            01/01/70 00:00      
                              That's unfortunately true!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 This is a problem with the Internet as a whole            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Indexed info is good, but costs time            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       It's tradeoff ... quality vs. quantity            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Many posters looks for solutions to the wrong problem            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             not 'normally' but 'always'            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Isn't that the best way to learn?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Definitely not!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                referring to responses you made in the past            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Ehm, do you really think...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   not exactly            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      so YOU know what is 'realistic'            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Depends            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Your point is certainly valid            01/01/70 00:00      
   Another problem in forums that have multiple areas            01/01/70 00:00      
      Is that a problem in a moderated forum?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Amount of moderator work            01/01/70 00:00      
            Maybe, but we could let YOU do the work            01/01/70 00:00      
               be real            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Quality tends to drop with time            01/01/70 00:00      
                     I agree ... it would "lose its luster" over time            01/01/70 00:00      
         That's the catch            01/01/70 00:00      
            Maybe it's not such a big "catch"            01/01/70 00:00      

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