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07/11/09 13:14
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- It is parallel like your second scheme.
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Calibrating resistors using AT89C51RD2
01/01/70 00:00
The problem is not manufacturing tolerances...
01/01/70 00:00
those low drift 0.01% resistors are too expensive.
01/01/70 00:00
Now, that you enter into a discussion...
01/01/70 00:00
more details
01/01/70 00:00
Drift is well documented
01/01/70 00:00
No longer published in todays datasheets...
01/01/70 00:00
thanks that was very useful
01/01/70 00:00
You can't calibrate without a reference!
01/01/70 00:00
I have a Hioki DMM as a reference
01/01/70 00:00
But you said auto-calibration
01/01/70 00:00
No
01/01/70 00:00
Need lots of bits
01/01/70 00:00
good analysis
01/01/70 00:00
what design?
01/01/70 00:00
how precise is that?
01/01/70 00:00
50000 counts
01/01/70 00:00
you are making the usual mistake of ....
01/01/70 00:00
not just more precise, but lower drift as well
01/01/70 00:00
Calibration
01/01/70 00:00
can I regularly calibrate?
01/01/70 00:00
many issues involved
01/01/70 00:00
Then...
01/01/70 00:00
Assuming and supposing...
01/01/70 00:00
Ok...
01/01/70 00:00
How fast? How many bits? How stable input signal?
01/01/70 00:00
more details
01/01/70 00:00
More details needed...
01/01/70 00:00
spikes of source could be a problem
01/01/70 00:00
Hhm...
01/01/70 00:00
Hard to self-calibrate
01/01/70 00:00
high sampling rate is not for calibration
01/01/70 00:00
It is a constant current source
01/01/70 00:00
Answers and questions...
01/01/70 00:00
Answers
01/01/70 00:00
Oh, I think I know what it is...
01/01/70 00:00
That's true
01/01/70 00:00
Difficult!
01/01/70 00:00
since this is about calibrating known resistors ....
01/01/70 00:00
Too fast for manual change
01/01/70 00:00
My solution
01/01/70 00:00
I have seen nothing yet that gives ....
01/01/70 00:00
How?
01/01/70 00:00
two screw terminals and a precision resistor
01/01/70 00:00
What are exactly the shunts you switch?
01/01/70 00:00
currently ...
01/01/70 00:00
You should test...
01/01/70 00:00
good idea...
01/01/70 00:00
Well, I suspect...
01/01/70 00:00
don't expect
01/01/70 00:00
A look into datasheet is always important...
01/01/70 00:00
Both problems
01/01/70 00:00
Advantages of shunts in series
01/01/70 00:00
Current scheme...
01/01/70 00:00
How make before break?
01/01/70 00:00
It is parallel like your second scheme.
01/01/70 00:00
Offset voltages?
01/01/70 00:00
Yes
01/01/70 00:00
Try the following...
01/01/70 00:00
Wht's the difference?
01/01/70 00:00
You should, to find out what's wrong!
01/01/70 00:00
Ok but Isn't it easier to calibrate?
01/01/70 00:00
Yes, but...
01/01/70 00:00
Purpose of auto calibration
01/01/70 00:00
No!
01/01/70 00:00
Did you think about the shunt error during the "make"?
01/01/70 00:00
disadvantages of series scheme
01/01/70 00:00
Not really...
01/01/70 00:00
0.1%
01/01/70 00:00
Surprise!
01/01/70 00:00
voltage drop
01/01/70 00:00
So low?
01/01/70 00:00
momma! I want it all, but refuse to pay
01/01/70 00:00
Wanting to achive a precision of 0.01%...
01/01/70 00:00
next he will make a perpetuum mobile
01/01/70 00:00
how true and ...
01/01/70 00:00
Precise enough
01/01/70 00:00
that MAY be true for VOLTS
01/01/70 00:00
OK, give me a few days time....
01/01/70 00:00
Try to avoid it at all!
01/01/70 00:00
You need a lot of individual precision for 0.1% all-range
01/01/70 00:00
Owens
01/01/70 00:00
Yes
01/01/70 00:00
Good discussion but...
01/01/70 00:00
a hypothetical example
01/01/70 00:00
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