I was talking to someone today | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Man-made global warming | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Nonetheless | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Arthur C Clarke | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
since Richard misunderstood me | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
it is clean, safe and zero emissions | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
It implies distribution of electric power ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
You dismiss this further down... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Yes, but your presentation is irrelevant! | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Prove it. | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
It\'s obvious! | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Anybody need a coach for their debate team? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Well, Rob, YOU voted for him, didn\'t you? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Huh? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Zero Emission mythos | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
you missed the biggie | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Touché! | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
That wouldn't be an issue if it were done right! | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Business Electric Rates | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Good for them! | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
BALONEY made from horsefeathers | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
What courage? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
No ... the batteries will be lithium types | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Not enough lithium | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Wikipedia for one | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
65 ppm? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Elaborate | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
the real solution ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
You can see the weather changing its true | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
What an excellent idea! | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
You'll probably get your wish, but why rush it? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Stewardship | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Stewardship | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Basic point. | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Basic counterpoint | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Says who ? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
... so you WOULD defaecate in your living room? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
I do not know if this modern convenience called a | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
I think the real problem is ...free hot water | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
hot hot heat | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Some people heat their houses with that hot water! | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
In Reykjavik, Iceland, they all, do. | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Stewardship\'s for somebody else, right? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
CO2 | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Dosis sola venenum fecit. | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
SIze isn't everything | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
What about cyanide in your drinking water? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Degrees. | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Sources please. | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Sure, but ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Excellent references | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Historic data. | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Historical scales | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
is THIS a reason? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
what emit the most CO2? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
on a similar tone... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
what do you prefer? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
more emissions | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
I use both | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Yes, it is a reason | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Wrong Pollutants | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
perfectly good reason to expunge the offender | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
there's another issue ... the elephant in the room | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
What ? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
It's a balance issue ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Come on | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Planck's law... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
And | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Oops! | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
If it's concensus, it isn't spelled correctly! | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Regardless of the source, if it's a problem | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
to be honest... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
When I was a boy ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Whatever | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Ice Age? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Not that hot yet | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Now I'm confused. | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Take your pick ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
The Big Ball in The SKY | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Gonna get warmer, with or without us | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Sunspot. | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
I rest my case. | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Visiting | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
It's all about $$$$$$$$ | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Can you provide even one example? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Intuition | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
the truth tends to be in the middle | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Yes it can hurt. | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
For those interested.... a good website | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
and a good video | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
(OT): I don't understand... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Complete backfire | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Ah, so.... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Perhaps, but also ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
More like the kettle calling the pot a pot. | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
let us get a few things straight ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Oh sigh | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
vhemt.org | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Density | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Evidence | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
"scientific" evidence | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
You know what evidence is | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
If you want | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Note that "wackos" is spelled correctly! | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Yes | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
No | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
under the influence | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Percentage vs Absolute Value | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
That\'s the point | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Richard, do you even trust yourself? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
I don't know whom to trust ... perhaps nobody | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
One example | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
the converse | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Horsefeathers! | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
and power | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Mmh, I'd like to see some sources. | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Wate vapor | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
proportions again | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Whatever | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Acute vs. chronic. | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Differences. | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Strange | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
H20 vs. CH4 vs. CO2. | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Since you like to type... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Timescales. | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
There are short term effects too | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
I am aware | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Obscure scientists | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Talking of carbon footprints | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Pb-free | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
How it relates to global warming | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
re global warming | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
what??? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Angry and scared. | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Logic problem | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Since you quoted me... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Mandates ? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
States rights | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
And, and... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Revenue of course... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
nuclear? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
ridiculous? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Not quite wasteless. | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Neutron activation | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
this is not the case | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
fusion is easy!!!! | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
nuclear\'s not much better ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
radiation | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Hyperbole | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
the EPA | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
mentalist | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
consumerism | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Cost of CO2 removal from a coal power plant | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
And that's exactly ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Why babble about unnecessary inconveniences, | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Why do you think nuclear is clean? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
how much CO2 does it generate? ZERO | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
recycling is automatic | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Inconveniences. | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
not inconvenient for me | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
what are you waiting for | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
I think you misquoted me | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Nope | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Nonsense! | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Disagree | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
What makes you so important? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Sigh | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Corruption | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
The fish ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
is this a "red herring"? "Everybody does it." | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Oh ok | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Where you sit determines what you see ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
the top creature | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Russian 'imitation' cognac, I hope | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
maybe inadequate translation? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Reasons | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Did you notice the jump in gasoline prices? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
now we know what you reelly want | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
hate to tell you this eric | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Tax | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
What susidies? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
consider the 1 mil/kilobuck ratio of oil-leases | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
No subsidies | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
You don't serously believe that, do you? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Please | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Oil companies? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
It's an accounting trick ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Basis of opinion | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
agenda? no ... I just like to argue ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
re:taxes | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
They're just trying to make a buck. | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Not manipulation, market | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Reality vs. theory | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Close, but not quite. | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Hm .. ? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Not sure | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
East of Fallon | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
MPG | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
maybe? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
It\\\'s a bit hidden, but I found it ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Also | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Back Yards | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
re:nimby | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Exxon | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
re:oil | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
BP | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
So how big is your gas tank ? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
cheaper gas | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Good for you. | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
OT - Octane rating | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Diesels ?? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Try imports. | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
One's a truck... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
I know. | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
I somewhat recall - a long tim,e ago | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
I once had a girlfriend ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Response | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
If you\'re a gambling man ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Continuing on | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Yes, Richard, man is evil | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
I can't remember that far back ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
What do you see? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
What corruption? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Those are all minor examples | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Automobiles "have at least one drawback" | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
And all it took was ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Hindsight's always 20/20 | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
hindsight???? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
but that's where the nuke debacles have occurred | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
to Richard | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
CPUs | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
I knew that would come up ... ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
You are beginning to scare me Richard | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
I'm an animal lover | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
yep ... me too ... and on an ATV at 1000 yards | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Yup ... there's only one animal I don't like ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Engineering 101... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
That's what proves the fools are running things | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
My point... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
A few corrections ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
particularly since transport is the lion's share | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Nature | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Can you name ONE human act of benefit to the earth | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
triangle, shmiangle | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Daylight Savings | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Oh, you ring a bell there | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Its only just becoming apparent | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
and what are these conditions? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Synthesis | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
the relationship between energy, money and ecology | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
also an interesting related wikipedia article | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Hot ? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Geologist pokes his head in here... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Sci Fi | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Read it back in college | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Freon | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Effects. | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
re:freon | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Convection. | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Just like ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Freon at the South Pole | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Because ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
re:convection | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
No studies ? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
This should show you guys ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Disagree | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
We'll never know who's right | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
"Net benefit" | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Right | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
The religion of economy. | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
So you theorize | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Actually | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Uhm | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
a noble thought, but | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Save the starving | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Data. | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Ok, see above | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
CoolBiz | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Held off? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
I wouldn't worry | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Big lies | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
"Natural" | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Definition | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Heheh | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
inorganic food | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Carbonaceous? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
It stems from human huberis | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
it's not self-loathing | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Why ? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
I wouldn\'t attribute that to \"fun\" | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Here pussy pussy | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Speak for yourself, Richard | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
When was the last time | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
what is "environment"? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
it is the same thing that people do | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Pre-historic oxygen levels | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Nature's balance | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
not a bacteria, but | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
It's a religious issue for you gross-polluters | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Nobody\'s going to switch sides ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
I know... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Well, that wasn't my goal. | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Another class | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
You've been brainwashed! | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Vested interests | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Consequences ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Socialism | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
It's time to reconsider. | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
No evidence | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
It's like I said ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
echo | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Suspicions. | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Ok | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Two points | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Commons | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Commons | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Commons | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
no | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Rabbits in Canada | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Population dynamics | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Tragedy of unregulated commons. | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Okay | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Freon | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Freon conspiracy | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
This just in...80% reduction needed... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
worked too | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
I missed something | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Iron in the ocean | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Ocean anywhere | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Iron inthe Oceans | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
while it may have been in a book | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Try "SOFeX" | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Take up ? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Credit where credit is due... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Getting clse thoughe | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Editorial control | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
the stupidest way to do things | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Tax ! | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
Somebody please throw some brains ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
the REAL problem | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
the people who brainwashed me can spell! | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
maybe not | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
They're behind on their washing ... and so am I | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
well this is TOTALLY off topic, but anyhow | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
So you're a costco shopper too, eh? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |