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04/01/07 10:59
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#136364 - Actually ...
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If the money we contributed to social security were actually set aside, it would've been sustainable. <p>

Actually, then it would not work - because of the problems of scale. "Setting aside" would mean "investing", and with the amount of money involved (especially for long-term things like pension insurance), you'd soon have the social security system be the owner of a large part of the capital.

Also, leaving money in the hands of bureaucrats is probably even worse than having them spend it immediately. It would give them too much time to work out creative ways to diverts some of it into their pockets.

"Setting aside" works for individual security, but it doesn't scale to the size of "millions".

I believe the majority of the population get far less back from the government than they put in over the course of a lifetime.

Call me naive, but I enjoy the immaterial benefits of having a working social security system in place. Like not seeing people who have lost half their teeth but can't pay for dentures. Or not having a gang problem. Or not having bankruptcies because of medical bills.

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Circuit City lays off 3400. Hires them back cheap.            01/01/70 00:00      
   it's not "the computer industry"            01/01/70 00:00      
      interesting...            01/01/70 00:00      
         amongst a lot of other stuff            01/01/70 00:00      
   Well, that's a good way...            01/01/70 00:00      
      Never mind the workforce.            01/01/70 00:00      
   Computers, not.            01/01/70 00:00      
      American Pride....            01/01/70 00:00      
         True but            01/01/70 00:00      
            I dont think so.....            01/01/70 00:00      
               Try this...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  to Robert Revens            01/01/70 00:00      
                  to Robert Revens (also)            01/01/70 00:00      
               Things kids did (and engineers, too).            01/01/70 00:00      
                  unintended side effects            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Hmmm            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Bored teenagers            01/01/70 00:00      
                     real life            01/01/70 00:00      
                        My first bomb            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Ah            01/01/70 00:00      
                  real-life skills?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     a quote            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Yes, of course.            01/01/70 00:00      
   just struck me            01/01/70 00:00      
      Maybe, but...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Right            01/01/70 00:00      
            True up to a point, but...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Employers resoposibility.....            01/01/70 00:00      
               well            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Agreed, but...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     True            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Doesn't work in large firms            01/01/70 00:00      
               Ok            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Risk            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Already compensated            01/01/70 00:00      
               Employee\'s responsibility            01/01/70 00:00      
         continuing what Joe said            01/01/70 00:00      
      Nonono.            01/01/70 00:00      
   Circuit City took the lazy way out?            01/01/70 00:00      
      the same here            01/01/70 00:00      
         The future of Circuit City            01/01/70 00:00      
      And what is the unemployment rate in ...            01/01/70 00:00      
         unemployment            01/01/70 00:00      
            Infant Mortality            01/01/70 00:00      
               Stats            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Tabliod Truth            01/01/70 00:00      
                     NHS            01/01/70 00:00      
               Maybe it's because of too much, not too little            01/01/70 00:00      
            Real unemployment            01/01/70 00:00      
            Perhaps            01/01/70 00:00      
               Altrusim            01/01/70 00:00      
                  No            01/01/70 00:00      
               taxes            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Sustainability?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     I have no idea            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Sure, but...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Actually ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              For awhle...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  this sounds like the Denmark I left ages ago            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Too much state            01/01/70 00:00      

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