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03/31/07 18:17
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#136335 - Doesn't work in large firms
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Several large U.S. employers have extracted major concessions from their labor force and their union, only to tromp on them again and again having proven their desire to hang onto their jobs.

Corporate negotiators see that as a sign of weakness.

Union negotiators, seeing that their principal risk is loss of membership, acquiesce, thereby keeping their members under one umbrella, but sacrificing their wages and benefits. The union, after all, works for the union, and no longer truly represents the workers' interests.

The labor force, therefore, is on its own, once again, and has to consider its own interests. If they want more pay, they have to provide more benefit to their employer. If they do that, they'll have no trouble keeping their jobs, and their wages.

The days of "get a job and then retire" are long gone.

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Circuit City lays off 3400. Hires them back cheap.            01/01/70 00:00      
   it's not "the computer industry"            01/01/70 00:00      
      interesting...            01/01/70 00:00      
         amongst a lot of other stuff            01/01/70 00:00      
   Well, that's a good way...            01/01/70 00:00      
      Never mind the workforce.            01/01/70 00:00      
   Computers, not.            01/01/70 00:00      
      American Pride....            01/01/70 00:00      
         True but            01/01/70 00:00      
            I dont think so.....            01/01/70 00:00      
               Try this...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  to Robert Revens            01/01/70 00:00      
                  to Robert Revens (also)            01/01/70 00:00      
               Things kids did (and engineers, too).            01/01/70 00:00      
                  unintended side effects            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Hmmm            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Bored teenagers            01/01/70 00:00      
                     real life            01/01/70 00:00      
                        My first bomb            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Ah            01/01/70 00:00      
                  real-life skills?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     a quote            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Yes, of course.            01/01/70 00:00      
   just struck me            01/01/70 00:00      
      Maybe, but...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Right            01/01/70 00:00      
            True up to a point, but...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Employers resoposibility.....            01/01/70 00:00      
               well            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Agreed, but...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     True            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Doesn't work in large firms            01/01/70 00:00      
               Ok            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Risk            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Already compensated            01/01/70 00:00      
               Employee\'s responsibility            01/01/70 00:00      
         continuing what Joe said            01/01/70 00:00      
      Nonono.            01/01/70 00:00      
   Circuit City took the lazy way out?            01/01/70 00:00      
      the same here            01/01/70 00:00      
         The future of Circuit City            01/01/70 00:00      
      And what is the unemployment rate in ...            01/01/70 00:00      
         unemployment            01/01/70 00:00      
            Infant Mortality            01/01/70 00:00      
               Stats            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Tabliod Truth            01/01/70 00:00      
                     NHS            01/01/70 00:00      
               Maybe it's because of too much, not too little            01/01/70 00:00      
            Real unemployment            01/01/70 00:00      
            Perhaps            01/01/70 00:00      
               Altrusim            01/01/70 00:00      
                  No            01/01/70 00:00      
               taxes            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Sustainability?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     I have no idea            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Sure, but...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Actually ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              For awhle...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  this sounds like the Denmark I left ages ago            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Too much state            01/01/70 00:00      

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