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03/31/07 07:47
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#136280 - Sure, but...
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Patrick De Groote said:
One thing to note: The average age of the population is rising. So claims are made that the active population will be too small to sustain the retired population.


That's the inherent problem. If the money we contributed to social security were actually set aside, it would've been sustainable. But when we were contributing more to social security than social security was paying out, the extra wasn't saved. It was spent. Now we're toast. It's a mathematical certainty. The only solution (here in the U.S.) is to continue to increase the retirement age, reduce benefits, or let more and more young immigrants into the country so we can hope that they can pay for our retirement.

Regardless of the "solution," it's a classic Ponzi scheme until such time as the system is actually saving money that is contributed rather than spending it on others that have already contributed. If it weren't the government doing it, it'd be illegal. And for good reason. It's unsustainable and someone will get burned. And I strongly believe I'll be one of the millions that get burned.

Well, abuse will always be there. But that can be minimized... Always consider the majority of people... Not the few exceptions that are usaully more mentioned in the media than joe average, just doing the best he can.


I believe the majority of the population get far less back from the government than they put in over the course of a lifetime.

Time to have nice weekend... all of us...


Agreed. Tomorrow looks a bit cold here, but it looks like Sunday will be a decent day for a nice bike ride. I'm looking forward to that.

Regards,
Craig Steiner


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Circuit City lays off 3400. Hires them back cheap.            01/01/70 00:00      
   it's not "the computer industry"            01/01/70 00:00      
      interesting...            01/01/70 00:00      
         amongst a lot of other stuff            01/01/70 00:00      
   Well, that's a good way...            01/01/70 00:00      
      Never mind the workforce.            01/01/70 00:00      
   Computers, not.            01/01/70 00:00      
      American Pride....            01/01/70 00:00      
         True but            01/01/70 00:00      
            I dont think so.....            01/01/70 00:00      
               Try this...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  to Robert Revens            01/01/70 00:00      
                  to Robert Revens (also)            01/01/70 00:00      
               Things kids did (and engineers, too).            01/01/70 00:00      
                  unintended side effects            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Hmmm            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Bored teenagers            01/01/70 00:00      
                     real life            01/01/70 00:00      
                        My first bomb            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Ah            01/01/70 00:00      
                  real-life skills?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     a quote            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Yes, of course.            01/01/70 00:00      
   just struck me            01/01/70 00:00      
      Maybe, but...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Right            01/01/70 00:00      
            True up to a point, but...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Employers resoposibility.....            01/01/70 00:00      
               well            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Agreed, but...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     True            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Doesn't work in large firms            01/01/70 00:00      
               Ok            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Risk            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Already compensated            01/01/70 00:00      
               Employee\'s responsibility            01/01/70 00:00      
         continuing what Joe said            01/01/70 00:00      
      Nonono.            01/01/70 00:00      
   Circuit City took the lazy way out?            01/01/70 00:00      
      the same here            01/01/70 00:00      
         The future of Circuit City            01/01/70 00:00      
      And what is the unemployment rate in ...            01/01/70 00:00      
         unemployment            01/01/70 00:00      
            Infant Mortality            01/01/70 00:00      
               Stats            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Tabliod Truth            01/01/70 00:00      
                     NHS            01/01/70 00:00      
               Maybe it's because of too much, not too little            01/01/70 00:00      
            Real unemployment            01/01/70 00:00      
            Perhaps            01/01/70 00:00      
               Altrusim            01/01/70 00:00      
                  No            01/01/70 00:00      
               taxes            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Sustainability?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     I have no idea            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Sure, but...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Actually ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              For awhle...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  this sounds like the Denmark I left ages ago            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Too much state            01/01/70 00:00      

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