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03/20/07 13:19
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Well, with all respect to your work, I wouldn't call that an adequate proof of nonexistence of bugs in the given compiler.

1) I state I have found ZERO bugs in full fledged Keil compiler/linker, after, at least, a decade of use. does that, in any way, state "there are no bugs"? Does that state "this is a good product and bugs are unlikely" you be the judge.

2) Neil said check the Keil fourms for compiler bugs. Most are answered by RTFM, No That is the way C works, or Post you code. let me add: in the Raisonance forum every other such post is answered "will be fixed in next release" so where is the difference, you judge for yourself if a half price product is half as good.

As far as being 'cheap'. There is nothing 'cheap' abut being frugal and using a low cost/free compiler. There is A LOT about being cheap in using the (lack of0 performance of a low cost/free compiler to reject the usefulness of a premium product. If you use a low cost/free compiler, accept what you are doing, do not use that as an argument "all compilers introduce bugs".

One last word about Keil: in my opinion they should scrap the IDE, it can not do what I need, then am I a typical customer?. maybe the majority of users just lovws the IDE. Do I concerne myself with the quality of the IDE, of coiurse not. repeat the above re the simulator, repeat the above re the editor.

Now, what does concern me is the quality of the compiler/assembler/linker and I have found ZERO bugs in that area, after, at least, a decade of use.

Erik

List of 42 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Unbelieveable nonsence            01/01/70 00:00      
   I don't know ...            01/01/70 00:00      
      my understanding of \"things that have to work\"...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Tests, reviews and such.            01/01/70 00:00      
            rules? What rules?            01/01/70 00:00      
               sounds like assembler to me            01/01/70 00:00      
                  naaaah            01/01/70 00:00      
                  I agree            01/01/70 00:00      
                     OK, but this is a particular application...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        valid only for cheaspskates and stressers            01/01/70 00:00      
                           I stumbled across a compiler bug, once.            01/01/70 00:00      
                              so did I            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Were you looking for bugs?            01/01/70 00:00      
                              HUH            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 It\'s not that you should look. That is THEIR job!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    a diffgerent tone            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Erik, you need to learn to read ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          mustard            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Too close to the bone            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Shilling for Keil            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    at least you wouldn\'t deny it ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Steve, you are right, I suppose, but ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Keil is Old            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    That\'s enough            01/01/70 00:00      
                           how good is good enough?            01/01/70 00:00      
                              comments            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 I am not good in this sort of fights...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    not arguing, clarifying            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       the difference is in the complexity of tools            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          but, if you had said so            01/01/70 00:00      
   why deal with them?            01/01/70 00:00      
      just a thought...            01/01/70 00:00      
         What's "V&V docs" (sorry for my stupidity)?            01/01/70 00:00      
            V&V            01/01/70 00:00      
               thanks            01/01/70 00:00      
      Customers!            01/01/70 00:00      
         ancient Greek            01/01/70 00:00      
            Large projects?            01/01/70 00:00      
   what about...            01/01/70 00:00      
    Unbelieveable??            01/01/70 00:00      
   Avionics compiler            01/01/70 00:00      
      The Blue screen of Death            01/01/70 00:00      

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