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12/21/06 14:07
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#129897 - Data sheets don' rule in reverse engineering
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Data sheets are a good starting point, but in the world of reverse engineering, they don't rule. They can contain errors, and can occasionally deliberately mislead. I like to say that "truth is in silicon".

Part performance varies because of temperature, voltage, and process variations. With two of those numbers known, there is not all that much variance left with the process. That allows you to come up with a pretty good estimate of what the "true" spec is. And that number is what you use for your replacement chip design.

I totally agree that end users should be guided by the published specification. But many users will use a part beyond the published specifications. And so a successful replacement part needs to match the true specifications and not the published ones. Otherwise you will be overwhelmed by applications support to customers claiming that the old part works in their design, but yours doesn't.

The 82C55 contains one of the bigger mismatches between spec and silicon that I have seen.

List of 29 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
The 8255A is stronger and faster than reported.            01/01/70 00:00      
   The Data Sheet rules            01/01/70 00:00      
      How can we rely on that specification?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Not proven!            01/01/70 00:00      
   who give s hoot what you have 'found'            01/01/70 00:00      
      Data sheets don' rule in reverse engineering            01/01/70 00:00      
         Does that mean...            01/01/70 00:00      
            I'm a chip provider, not a user            01/01/70 00:00      
               then do notstate "The 8255A is stronger and fast"            01/01/70 00:00      
                  8255 statements            01/01/70 00:00      
         They do determine what you have to deliver ...            01/01/70 00:00      
            What I Did            01/01/70 00:00      
               Hmmmm ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Measuring output DC parameters            01/01/70 00:00      
                     What did you really test?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        DC measurements            01/01/70 00:00      
                           That's why measurements are quick and automatic            01/01/70 00:00      
                              My paycheck?            01/01/70 00:00      
   No!            01/01/70 00:00      
   How?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Measuring Specs            01/01/70 00:00      
   Population v sample sigma            01/01/70 00:00      
      Should know better            01/01/70 00:00      
         Dangerous extrapolations            01/01/70 00:00      
      The other side of the looking glass            01/01/70 00:00      
   The timing issue was the delay ....            01/01/70 00:00      
      Thanks for the tip            01/01/70 00:00      
      8255            01/01/70 00:00      
         do these two things            01/01/70 00:00      

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