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10/31/06 21:12
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#127165 - possible
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Erik Malund said:
Does anyone know of the top of there head a 3.3VTTL through hole, preferably single or dual gate that would work here?

If you use 74HCT you get 3V3 input and 5V output with a 5V supply for both the gate and the transciever. TTL or LSTTL will work as well, if the line can handle the load. PS do you really want an AND, not an OR???

Erik


Erik
http://www.8052.com/forumchat/read.phtml?id=127161
This UM232 device has jumpers for 5V use as well. I want the inputs to whatever device I use to not interfear with the serial line being monitored. One concern with using a 5V device (and Ill have to look at this one you suggested), are the inputs internally pulled up to 5V and cause some funny action on my serial line? This is reasoning for looking at 3.3V devices first, though If I'm wrong here, please comment,

Here is my logic for selecting an AND

1) operation is half duplex
2) during idle conditions, rx and tx (both RX and TX with respect to the master) lines are high, output is high
3) master starts transmitting, tx line goes low or high, rx stays high, output follows the TX line
4) slave responds, TX line stays high, RX line goes low and high, output follows the RX line

The object is to make RX and TX line apear as on TX line transmitting all messages to a PC. The protocal we are using will work for sorting out master and slave messages. If my logic above is at fault, please comment

Andy



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TopicAuthorDate
serial line monitor?            01/01/70 00:00      
   theres            01/01/70 00:00      
      oh bums forget that            01/01/70 00:00      
         I'd be surperissed if B&B does not have it            01/01/70 00:00      
            one of the first places I looked            01/01/70 00:00      
               Can you make theses work            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Even Cheaper Ebay            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Yes, but does it run at 3.3V?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        You can not have every thing            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Some work even at 3V and 5V            01/01/70 00:00      
                              try MAX3232            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Isn't there a difference            01/01/70 00:00      
                     yes, monitor            01/01/70 00:00      
                        FTDI FT2232            01/01/70 00:00      
                           I Like            01/01/70 00:00      
                              I like I like            01/01/70 00:00      
                              latest concept            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 why bother with 3V3 ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    possible            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       so it is a negative OR, why not show that?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          I dont get it            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 clarification            01/01/70 00:00      
                        It's still not clear what you mean            01/01/70 00:00      
                           monitor or traffic data            01/01/70 00:00      
                              I think..            01/01/70 00:00      
                              the fast and simple way            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 i like, but            01/01/70 00:00      
                  This just in            01/01/70 00:00      
   Bonusdata?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Fraid not            01/01/70 00:00      
   i typed rs232 analyzer into google and they came            01/01/70 00:00      
      more info            01/01/70 00:00      
   If you have 2 COM ports            01/01/70 00:00      
      If you have 2 com ports and excess money            01/01/70 00:00      
         Time is money            01/01/70 00:00      
            Time and money            01/01/70 00:00      
               don't forget the $10k in heartburn ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Evaluation            01/01/70 00:00      
               yeh            01/01/70 00:00      
                  working on a racetrack? :-)            01/01/70 00:00      
                     must b goin blind            01/01/70 00:00      
                        should've listened to Mom ...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Value?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Quite so            01/01/70 00:00      
   Try this            01/01/70 00:00      
      Something a little different            01/01/70 00:00      
   Have you tried a logic analyzer?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Digital scope            01/01/70 00:00      
         Logic Analizer of scope            01/01/70 00:00      
            Is it a digital 'scope?            01/01/70 00:00      
               yes, TDS 2014            01/01/70 00:00      
                  TDS            01/01/70 00:00      

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