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08/05/06 20:54
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#121702 - Don't see it Ian ...
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Ian,

With respect, i must say i can't concur with your analysis.

Your concern for divorce rate, porno, correctness and then finally their cumulative impact on things as precious as relations between individuals and their societies, are not things to wave off as inconsequential but they are constituent parts of a whole which has offsetting characteristics.

The honesty of divorce vs. the concept of cuckolding, or retaining a mistress which has been the historical alternative is an example that requires consideration.

Any form of disingenuous speech has always had it's hypocritical impact but hipocracy has a long history across political, religious, and general social speech. The social requirement for respectful speech is not degraded by fools who promote cultural "babytalk" (like not allowing the term Master/Slave to describe sub-system administration/priority and flow - you know who you are City of LA - ha ha ha).

The enfranchisement of social groups who in earlier times where repressed has been a very positive social movement enhancing not degrading the resilience our society.

There are so many example of social progress that result in cultural strength when viewed with historical perspective. I would not exchange my society for that of any earlier era here in the US.

But yes, we have many, many problems to solve and my optimisism is based specifically upon the relations i have with folks who opinion i don't share but easily respect. The clear community effort that i have seen in so many circumstances which would have argued for the opposite.

regards,
p



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State of the economy            01/01/70 00:00      
   Politics            01/01/70 00:00      
      many voted so because they were afraid that            01/01/70 00:00      
         Maybe, but I think it was something else            01/01/70 00:00      
            Lowest Common Denominator            01/01/70 00:00      
               Maybe not the end of the planet, though            01/01/70 00:00      
                  "Don't re-write running code from scratch".            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Maybe, but this code doesn't run            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Give us chance.            01/01/70 00:00      
                           True, but the other inhabitants have rights            01/01/70 00:00      
                              After you Sidney            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 That is not the way it works            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Ah yes            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 My point was ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Other places to defecate            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Bingo            01/01/70 00:00      
               Empires Rise and Fall            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Empires in flux ..            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Falling....            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Don't see it Ian ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           I see it            01/01/70 00:00      
                              it ain't over until it's over ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Better times? Depends on viewpoint            01/01/70 00:00      
                        fallen            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Falling            01/01/70 00:00      
                              What killed U.S. manufacturing ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 What really killed it            01/01/70 00:00      
            Right            01/01/70 00:00      
               Well, I\'m an old man ... I\'ll be leaving soon ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  "Politics of Aspiration"            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Yes ... ask any young Republican            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Comments            01/01/70 00:00      
                     You missed the point!            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Exactly!            01/01/70 00:00      
               an example            01/01/70 00:00      
      Politics not as usual            01/01/70 00:00      
   pigeons            01/01/70 00:00      
      What they've done here is to import raptors            01/01/70 00:00      
         Even the ancient Romans knew:            01/01/70 00:00      
            They're not efficient enough! Wolves are!            01/01/70 00:00      
      Raw Rice again            01/01/70 00:00      
   Additional info            01/01/70 00:00      
      So. Bill Gates walks into a room            01/01/70 00:00      
         mean vs median ...            01/01/70 00:00      
            uhhh            01/01/70 00:00      
               I admit it, my statement is incorrect.            01/01/70 00:00      
                  almost??            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Eh ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     give it a try when it matters ...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Math            01/01/70 00:00      
   to the delignt of the 'conspiracy theorists'            01/01/70 00:00      

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