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07/04/11 16:21
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#182801 - The protocol is good ... but not necesary here
Responding to: ???'s previous message
The SPI protocol isn't really necessary in this case. There are many devices, e.g. 74HC595

Going back to the beginning, the O/P wishes to drive a matrix of relays configured as a rows and 8 columns (I think) using 8 (source) high-side drivers (UDN2982) and 8 (sink) low-side drivers (ULN2803). In order to produce a persistent control signal, he must have a memory element of some sort in the mix. I proposed that he use a 74HC107 configured as a "T" flipflop for each relay. Any flipflop configured as a "T" flipflop would work, of course. After some consideration, I concluded that any serial-in-parallel-out shift register would work just as well to drive either the source or the sink. However, I'm puzzled with why he wants to drive both the source and the sink, i.e. why he can't just drive either the sources or the sinks. I'm also puzzled by the question of why he won't tell us how he expects to use only eight of each driver, to manage this task.

It's been stated repeatedly that relays are much slower than the MCU. I'm not sure that the O/P has ever examined a specification for relays. Perhaps, after the repeated exhortation to do so, he has. There are ways, I suppose, of constructing a matrix that might operate latching relays on a push-on/push-off basis. That's one way of routing controls. It doesn't explain why the O/P has "issues" with the ULN/UDN question.

It's time the O/P explains himself.

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List of 49 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
problem rgarding uln and udn            01/01/70 00:00      
   They are different in every sense!            01/01/70 00:00      
      problem rgarding uln and udn            01/01/70 00:00      
         You forgot your links            01/01/70 00:00      
         Basic electronics            01/01/70 00:00      
            Clarification - more Basic Electronics            01/01/70 00:00      
            probelems regarding udn 2892            01/01/70 00:00      
               Still Basic electronics            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Links            01/01/70 00:00      
                     That'll be why he's still struggling after all these weeks!            01/01/70 00:00      
               open emitter            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Open collector            01/01/70 00:00      
         RE: i am not getting you            01/01/70 00:00      
   Did you really read datasheets?            01/01/70 00:00      
      problem rgarding uln and udn            01/01/70 00:00      
         relay matrix???            01/01/70 00:00      
         This doesn't make sense!            01/01/70 00:00      
            8x8 relay matrix?            01/01/70 00:00      
               relay matrix?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  not quite            01/01/70 00:00      
                  one interesting thing I learned            01/01/70 00:00      
               Unless...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  problem rgarding uln and udn            01/01/70 00:00      
                     lightning fast relays            01/01/70 00:00      
                        problems regarding uln and udn            01/01/70 00:00      
                           both            01/01/70 00:00      
                           None of this makes sense!            01/01/70 00:00      
                           It appears you need latching relays            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Latching relay is still slow            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 You're right, but the relay spec's should reveal that            01/01/70 00:00      
                              well, if he does ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 use toggle types ... they were around once ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    SPI + latched shift registers are good choices            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       The protocol is good ... but not necesary here            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          SPI is excellent for driving long shift registers            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             tell us, Per, what data types does SPI support?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Making Mountain Out Of Mole Hill            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   protocol and/or command structure            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                No, SPI does *not* have both commands and data!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Where you sit determines what you see            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      Totally missing the point            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         The major advantage            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      Where Richard Sits......            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         From where I sit...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      Always important to follow up the progress of technology            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Language barrier?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Further question            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Sorry, double posting...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Cross-Post?            01/01/70 00:00      

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