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05/21/11 14:38
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#182325 - use toggle types ... they were around once ...
Responding to: ???'s previous message
As I mentioned before, the more appealing solution would be to drive the clocks to each of 64 T-flipflops to each of 64 relay drivers in order to turn the relays on and off with an 8x8 matrix. That would make them push-on/push-off types, merely requiring memory to record their state. Push-on/Push-off relays were once used in the telecom industry.

Another approach, given that the MCU had little else to do, would be to set the relay state from the matrix, retrieving the state from an in-memory buffer, and update it frequently enough that the state couldn't change due to the relay's behavior. That, too, would require thorough understanding of the relay characteristics, however. Such an approach would make the one-shot I previously mentioned desirable, though.

Given that I had to do this, I'd be tempted to use a CPLD with lots of pins to demultiplex the controls. That would even allow for a serial interface, which wouldn't consume so many pins. Additionally, using that sort of device would enable one to map the entire thing into external memory. That would allow for a really simple software interface, giving each relay its own memory location in the external memory map.

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problem rgarding uln and udn            01/01/70 00:00      
   They are different in every sense!            01/01/70 00:00      
      problem rgarding uln and udn            01/01/70 00:00      
         You forgot your links            01/01/70 00:00      
         Basic electronics            01/01/70 00:00      
            Clarification - more Basic Electronics            01/01/70 00:00      
            probelems regarding udn 2892            01/01/70 00:00      
               Still Basic electronics            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Links            01/01/70 00:00      
                     That'll be why he's still struggling after all these weeks!            01/01/70 00:00      
               open emitter            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Open collector            01/01/70 00:00      
         RE: i am not getting you            01/01/70 00:00      
   Did you really read datasheets?            01/01/70 00:00      
      problem rgarding uln and udn            01/01/70 00:00      
         relay matrix???            01/01/70 00:00      
         This doesn't make sense!            01/01/70 00:00      
            8x8 relay matrix?            01/01/70 00:00      
               relay matrix?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  not quite            01/01/70 00:00      
                  one interesting thing I learned            01/01/70 00:00      
               Unless...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  problem rgarding uln and udn            01/01/70 00:00      
                     lightning fast relays            01/01/70 00:00      
                        problems regarding uln and udn            01/01/70 00:00      
                           both            01/01/70 00:00      
                           None of this makes sense!            01/01/70 00:00      
                           It appears you need latching relays            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Latching relay is still slow            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 You're right, but the relay spec's should reveal that            01/01/70 00:00      
                              well, if he does ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 use toggle types ... they were around once ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    SPI + latched shift registers are good choices            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       The protocol is good ... but not necesary here            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          SPI is excellent for driving long shift registers            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             tell us, Per, what data types does SPI support?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Making Mountain Out Of Mole Hill            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   protocol and/or command structure            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                No, SPI does *not* have both commands and data!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Where you sit determines what you see            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      Totally missing the point            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         The major advantage            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      Where Richard Sits......            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         From where I sit...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      Always important to follow up the progress of technology            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Language barrier?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Further question            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Sorry, double posting...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Cross-Post?            01/01/70 00:00      

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