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06/30/10 18:18
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#177007 - oh yes, there is
Responding to: ???'s previous message
DIP package ... there is nothing at all wrong with them,
oh yes, there is, the long leads to the corners makes all kinds og havoc re the decoupling of chips with fast rise/fall times. regardless of your clock frequency todays derivatives have much faster rise/fall times than yesterdays, even with a chip capable of 33MHz (the clocking capability representative of the rise/fall times) you can get in big doo-doo with a DIL package.

I have had problems with SMT packages when some i**** laid it out so the distance to the decoupling cap was ~ 1 inch!!, a correct layout solved the problem.

Unfortunately many still believe that a wire is a wire, at any high frequency it is not, it is a bunch of inductors and capacitors.

Erik

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TopicAuthorDate
8051 core mc with adc            01/01/70 00:00      
   8051 in PDIP            01/01/70 00:00      
   it's time to give up            01/01/70 00:00      
   AT89LP6440            01/01/70 00:00      
      Only hunt DIL if this is a one-off hobby project            01/01/70 00:00      
      AT89LP6440            01/01/70 00:00      
         if you are worried about the cost ...            01/01/70 00:00      
            why not DIP?            01/01/70 00:00      
               Vcc decoupling can be critical...            01/01/70 00:00      
               SMD is far better than a DIP            01/01/70 00:00      
               oh yes, there is            01/01/70 00:00      
                  dip package            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Most SMD are manually solderable            01/01/70 00:00      
                        agree with Per            01/01/70 00:00      
               One & only advantage of DIP?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  DIP not bad - but not economical or future proof            01/01/70 00:00      
               only in relation to ...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Use ISP programming...            01/01/70 00:00      
            original isp cable            01/01/70 00:00      
               With a simple piece of code...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  onchip debug features            01/01/70 00:00      
                     rather            01/01/70 00:00      
                        AT89LP6440            01/01/70 00:00      
                           You don't *need* to change much            01/01/70 00:00      
                              OCD            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 OCD is (almost) an on-chip ICE            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    OCD            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       That's about it            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          keil            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             if it is PK51            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             See Keil website            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                even if it is not there            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       not quite            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          not quite - nearly            01/01/70 00:00      
                     RE: i will have to study the data sheet            01/01/70 00:00      
            original cable            01/01/70 00:00      
               what does ISP have to do with simulation?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Nothing - but did he mean "emulator" ?            01/01/70 00:00      
   why noy use some LPC ADC?            01/01/70 00:00      
   8051 core mc with adc            01/01/70 00:00      

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