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01/19/13 03:42
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#189269 - Poor NXP, XMC1000 series announced
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Jim Granville said:

It gets worse.

NXP had a nice 8051 upgrade in their LPC98x/LPC97x, which brought Wide Vcc to fix a blind spot in there LPC9xx family.

Instead, they pull the rug, and now pitch a Narrow Vcc part, to replace Wide Vcc sockets ?!

Sounds like too many marketing degrees, and not enough designers left at NXP.
The 8 bit parts we are looking at, all have ADCs - so NXP remove that too !!
We need a small package, and that means small, not DIP8 !!


... and to underline my earlier comments, the Infineon XMC1000 series

Whilst NXP market-droids may think Narrow-Vcc is ok to pitch to 8 bit customers, it seems Infineon are much smarter.

Their new XMC1000 series says

* A broad voltage tolerance, between 1.8V and 5.5V (!)
* 12-bit ADC operate up to 1.88Msps
* four 16-bit timers in a capture/compare unit 4 (CCU4) (*)
* TSOP16 / TSSOP28 / TSSOP38 8k-200kF 16KR

{ I guess those who love their Multiple-Supplies and level-shifters, can continue using those ;) }

(*) The XMC4000 series note on CCU4 Timer blocks says:
built-in timer concatenation � 32, 48 or 64 bit width

List of 37 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
NXP stated aim, "to make 8-bit architectures obsolete"            01/01/70 00:00      
   Available in DIP!            01/01/70 00:00      
      no continuity            01/01/70 00:00      
         It gets worse.            01/01/70 00:00      
            We need a small package            01/01/70 00:00      
               Not small enough            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Funny, that!            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Nice size, shame about price            01/01/70 00:00      
            Poor NXP, XMC1000 series announced            01/01/70 00:00      
   No 5V option            01/01/70 00:00      
      just curious            01/01/70 00:00      
         Because it is useful.            01/01/70 00:00      
         RE: why the 5V fascination?             01/01/70 00:00      
            well, you will have to redesign anyhow.            01/01/70 00:00      
         Power MOSFET drive and 5V ADC            01/01/70 00:00      
         5V can be surprisingly useful            01/01/70 00:00      
            Most Automotive parts DO use 5V            01/01/70 00:00      
            why?            01/01/70 00:00      
               Close, but no Cigar...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  MOSFET driver            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Silabs 6V ports for Class D audio            01/01/70 00:00      
                     which means they were thinking about logic-level MOSFET driv            01/01/70 00:00      
                        I was looking for something like this            01/01/70 00:00      
                           isn't it a pity ..            01/01/70 00:00      
                              this            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 but that is ~15 bucks :)            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    for one off            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       four bucks!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Not 8051            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    HUH?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       What??? Which SiLabs clocks at >168E6?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          he means higher than 80Mhz            01/01/70 00:00      
                           just wait            01/01/70 00:00      
                        MOSFET drive            01/01/70 00:00      
               More than 5V tolerant inputs            01/01/70 00:00      
   yeah and your problem is?            01/01/70 00:00      
   You ask me Andy            01/01/70 00:00      

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