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10/31/09 22:51
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#170302 - Outdated? So what? The wheels still turn ...
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Nils Skaansar said:

I have a pile of 8031 chips in my box.Also 5 8052AH basic chips. Since 1987.

And a pile of 8039 chips.............. (20)

Do You still want to use these outdated CPU's ?

Today I would select an AVR chip or a new 8052 variant or a PIC processor.

8031, 8039 and 8052-AH basic is a waste of time these days.

In October 1993 I designed a modem with a 8039 chip.. Less than 4K of code


It just shows that good things can still be done with the old stuff.

The 8039 was as "out of date in 1993 as the i8752 is today. It is, after all, a ROM-less 8048. It still worked, didn't it?

There are still devices in use today, e.g. some of my test equipment, that used 8080 and 8085 processors. They still do exactly what they were supposed to do when new, and, in some cases, an updated version of the device isn't even available. I built a device for a friend, using an 8748, in 1994. It worked as required. Displayed its output and produced the desired actions. My old HDD exerciser still does what it is supposed to do, as do some of the old FDD's that use 8048's to control them.

In what way would it have been "better" or "easier" to do this with a more modern chip? I don't use HLL's for small tasks, BTW, so, though I could have programmed the 8748 in some HLL, I wouldn't have done that.

16 years ago..................

Regards,

Nils








List of 28 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
PCB for Elektor's 8052AH-BASIC project            01/01/70 00:00      
   Programming 8748-series MCU's is documented            01/01/70 00:00      
      You could probably do that on a PC that has a parallel port            01/01/70 00:00      
         Why, gentlemen ....            01/01/70 00:00      
            What would a newer MCU help?            01/01/70 00:00      
               help? maybe not, but save a lot of time            01/01/70 00:00      
                  It's what he said he wants            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Right here!            01/01/70 00:00      
                     why I want to program 8748's.....            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Electronics Today International            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Elektor PCB            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Those were the days...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           I recently pitched my old tapeup stuff ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        EPROM programming            01/01/70 00:00      
                           8748 programming with the 8052AH-BASIC            01/01/70 00:00      
                              It's not a tough job.            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Well, since you ask            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Old chips            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Outdated? So what? The wheels still turn ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              if you included EVERYTHING            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Let him do what he wants!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    mixing things up again            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       maybe not so much as you imagine            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Old Chips - Already Answered!            01/01/70 00:00      
   No need for the PCB            01/01/70 00:00      
      Good stuff            01/01/70 00:00      
   Elektor Website?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Intel 8052 AH Basic            01/01/70 00:00      

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