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10/05/09 14:06
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#169431 - Probably no interleaving anymore - no need with track caches
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You have two tricks that was used by old disks.

One was to interleave data, i.e. not store a continuous file on sequential sectors because the controller wasn't fast enough to process the data before the next sector had already passed. That problem went away with our caching disks. The HDD will cache the full track as soon as the head is aligned enough to see sectors. If the platter then have to spin for a while until the correct sector shows up, the disk will possibly have picked up a number of future sectors.

The next trick was that you could have staggered tracks, where the first sector on the track wasn't always at the same angle on the platter to allow a head to move from one track to the following and reach the new track just before the first sector arrives. I don't know if this is used in modern disks, but I would suspect that it isn't. Our file systems are more advanced now, so it isn't as simple to just assume that the disk will be read track after track. And the caching and fast disk interfaces makes it less important just as the need for interleaved sectors have gone away.

Microsoft did just buy an old and very lite edition of a disk defragmenter - they never did write one of their own because they assumed that the NTFS file system didn't need any defragmenting. They are probably forbidden from adding free-space defragmentation to avoid competition with the commercial non-lite defragger.

List of 26 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
10-22-09            01/01/70 00:00      
   Hmmm            01/01/70 00:00      
      most people stopped updating their systems            01/01/70 00:00      
         Seldom upgrading OS on machines            01/01/70 00:00      
            Windows slow-down            01/01/70 00:00      
               Disk Fragmentation            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Good point            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Not really "all" operating systems            01/01/70 00:00      
                        It's risky using all those "updates"            01/01/70 00:00      
                           No problem with IP            01/01/70 00:00      
                              a lot of applications are written by morons            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Cleaning time            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Cookies? Registry Entries? Automatic Updates?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       One other possibility            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       re: cookies            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          appeaciate the 'complement'            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             if that makes me silly so be it            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                two points            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   expertise            01/01/70 00:00      
                              I think it's lack of testing ... not just playing with it            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Which file system?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     NTFS fragments heavily under some situations            01/01/70 00:00      
                        HDD Issues            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Probably no interleaving anymore - no need with track caches            01/01/70 00:00      
                        NTFS fragmentation            01/01/70 00:00      
                     re: which FS?            01/01/70 00:00      

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