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09/27/06 17:51
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#125216 - there are reasons ...
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Some folks take it as a challenge to replicate or "improve" another's design. If you've invested months in a piece of work, done on speculation, you don't want someone else to be able to copy it and deprive you of compensation for your effort. Quite frankly, if the crystal is attached where it is attached, it's unlikely they'll fail to recognize the part if they're in any sense, sophisticated. Combine that with the telltale reset circuit, and the crystal frequency, and the cat is out of the bag, so to speak.

Back when we used lots of Schottky TTL, boards got hot, so it wasn't unusual to place a heatsink atop parts that were particularly sensitive. This presented an opportunity to put easily recognized components or components that made it too simple to figure out what was being done and how it was being done, under a soldered-in-place heatsink. Sometimes, it's desirable to put what looks like RF shielding in place, too. If you're able to label a module with some unrecognizable stock number, that works well, too.

Having spent over half my life reverse-engineering circuits for various reasons, I've encountered some of these tricks. Presently, I like to hide components underneath others. That's often easy to do with a mix of socketed and soldered-in-place SMT components. People might be tempted to "buzz-out" your circuit, but they generally won't disassemble it.

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How to remove the stamp from chip package?            01/01/70 00:00      
   paint the chip            01/01/70 00:00      
      Can be removed?            01/01/70 00:00      
         I am afraid...            01/01/70 00:00      
            more ideas            01/01/70 00:00      
               Yes, but...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  let me elaborate on the idea...            01/01/70 00:00      
            If its a ceramic package            01/01/70 00:00      
               Thanks            01/01/70 00:00      
            Yes..            01/01/70 00:00      
               epoxy            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Thanks!            01/01/70 00:00      
                     ESD and bead blasting            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Chips are already soldered onto the board            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Not BGA            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Thanks, Joseph!            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Formic acid doesn't work for me!            01/01/70 00:00      
               epoxy or novalac            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Yes, high tech epoxy...            01/01/70 00:00      
         some paint works            01/01/70 00:00      
            Yes, that's what I'm looking for!            01/01/70 00:00      
   Stamp?            01/01/70 00:00      
      marking            01/01/70 00:00      
      The printing on the package, the marking            01/01/70 00:00      
         Sand paper, cloth emery sheet            01/01/70 00:00      
            Thanks            01/01/70 00:00      
               How about very fine grit emery cloth damp or wet?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Yes, this is a good idea!            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Methy-Ethyl Ketone Peroxide?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Plastic            01/01/70 00:00      
                        MEKP            01/01/70 00:00      
   I remember that situation ...            01/01/70 00:00      
      abrasive and ESD            01/01/70 00:00      
      back in the old days ...            01/01/70 00:00      
         I may be being stupid but...            01/01/70 00:00      
            there are reasons ...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Always a pleasure            01/01/70 00:00      
         While in memory lane...            01/01/70 00:00      
            We did that at IBM, too.            01/01/70 00:00      
            Special companies do it            01/01/70 00:00      
               You can get stock numbers on anything            01/01/70 00:00      
   Use a Dremel            01/01/70 00:00      
      It's important they don't notice it!            01/01/70 00:00      
         It didn't blister            01/01/70 00:00      
      I will have a look at it            01/01/70 00:00      

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