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06/15/06 16:50
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#118360 - the problem is
Responding to: ???'s previous message
I doubt adding a new derivative costs the KEIL folks over the cost of one copy of their software. They don't support the additional hardware in any way. They don't support the peripherals in any way, since they don't simulate them.
The problem is that it is not a matter of adding a new derivative, it is a matter of adding 100s? of new derivatives every year.

I think I have to agree with Jez' initial assessment, that the 2KB-limited version is inadequate for evaluation of the features that ultimately make the difference
Absolutely, however, the 'eval' is not for evaluation :). With the exception of Tasking I have NEVER had a problem borrowing a full tool from anyone for an actual evaluation. However, when 'evaluation', as often is the case, is a thinly veiled attempt to acquire tools for free, the limit is quite reasonable. When the makers name a limited version an 'evaluation version' there can be no argumenif the manufacturer has ANY suspicion as to your purpose of acquiring the software.

I can not count the number of bootlegs I have seen in my career and I DO understand the manufacturers reluctance to let the cat out of the box. On one occasion, I did not get a consulting contract simply because I refuse to work with bootlegged tools (not a Keil bootleg).

Erik

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Keilc51 demo version is far too limited            01/01/70 00:00      
   Bona fide?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Raisonance limit is 4k            01/01/70 00:00      
   thats what demo versions are for            01/01/70 00:00      
      I cahllemge you            01/01/70 00:00      
         amazing deduction            01/01/70 00:00      
   hmmm            01/01/70 00:00      
      The 805x series has "gotten away"            01/01/70 00:00      
      Pot. Kettle. Black.            01/01/70 00:00      
         ha ha ha            01/01/70 00:00      
   maybe....            01/01/70 00:00      
      That's why SDCC is preferable            01/01/70 00:00      
         Keil lifetime and SDCC?            01/01/70 00:00      
            Room for improvement.            01/01/70 00:00      
               It happens            01/01/70 00:00      
   the eval is purely a misnomer            01/01/70 00:00      
      Marketingspeak            01/01/70 00:00      
         Well, maybe he's a shill ... or a pimp            01/01/70 00:00      
            what is "device support?" for a compiler            01/01/70 00:00      
               Yes, that's part of it ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Pow, smack, whack...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     when you get what you need who cares abo            01/01/70 00:00      
                        You're absolutely right ... sadly enough            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Wrong tool            01/01/70 00:00      
                              you overstate greatly            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 consider the one-clocker            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    I have heard/read they kind of do            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       but only "sort-of"            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          derivative specific and general            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             They should admit they don't            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                the problem is            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   That's not where the argument should be            01/01/70 00:00      
                              It's probably less than that            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 One more thing ...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Evaluation            01/01/70 00:00      
   well anyway            01/01/70 00:00      
      Open Source            01/01/70 00:00      
         of course,once ive finished everything            01/01/70 00:00      
   wickenhaeuser compiler            01/01/70 00:00      

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