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03/11/06 11:08
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#111961 - controlling noise related issues
Responding to: ???'s previous message


Having gone through the link given by you, i understood the schmitt trigger based debounce circuit resonably well.
Thank you.
Its wonderful to see the facts being proved beautifully with the description of scope plots.

Kai Klass said:

A Schmitt-trigger input is always needed, if rise or fall time of input signal exceeds the specified maximum transition time, which is the case when doing a debouncing by the help of a RC-filter

i saw the data sheet of 7400 for any transition time given for its i/p. couldnt find anything like that.
Also, i couldnt think out how a delay in a 0 - 5 V transition at a NAND gate i/p could affect its o/p - 'in what ways'.
can you give me some hints on understanding the increased transition time phenomena that would affect the gate o/p's?(when using a NAND gate or in general).

Kai Klass said:

I also stated, that the 74121 is much more sensible against noise at trigger input and on supply voltage. So, you will need to do more filtering!

also previously you have said...

These unwanted spikes can come from ESD events or from noise being injected into the trigger input by unavoidable stray capacitance.


and i think, there are also many other factors that could be responsible for noise in electronics circuits.

So, if possible can i have your comments on the filtering techniques that could be handled to overcome (or)
control these noise related issues, thereby enhancing the life of the product being made.

In short, 'i would like to know how the noise related issues should be handled when designing a new product'.

your suggestions could be highly helpful.

Thanking you,
suresh.










List of 39 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Pressing 555 trigger SW continuously.            01/01/70 00:00      
   Again            01/01/70 00:00      
   capacitor couple it.            01/01/70 00:00      
      Re: cap coupling            01/01/70 00:00      
         Look up the internal block diagram            01/01/70 00:00      
            Read the Data Sheet!!            01/01/70 00:00      
      got the o/p            01/01/70 00:00      
         Satisfaction            01/01/70 00:00      
            Thanku steve            01/01/70 00:00      
         Not enough            01/01/70 00:00      
            alternatives ?            01/01/70 00:00      
               Remedy            01/01/70 00:00      
                  remedy?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Alternatives            01/01/70 00:00      
                  BC550 & diodes            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Try it by yourself, it's simple!            01/01/70 00:00      
                        analysis results            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Analysis            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Thank you            01/01/70 00:00      
                              after the set delay Time            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Enhanced debouncing            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    What do you think about it, Suresh?            01/01/70 00:00      
   why the neqw thread            01/01/70 00:00      
      reply            01/01/70 00:00      
         Read the Data Sheet!!            01/01/70 00:00      
   kalpak dabir            01/01/70 00:00      
   Have you considered using a 74121?            01/01/70 00:00      
      74121 versus CMOS555            01/01/70 00:00      
      74121 fine for short period delays?            01/01/70 00:00      
         No debounce needed???            01/01/70 00:00      
            Schmitt trigger operation?            01/01/70 00:00      
               Transition times of input signal            01/01/70 00:00      
                  controlling noise related issues            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Schmitt-trigger operation            01/01/70 00:00      
                      CD 4541BC = Alternative for ICM 7555?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Do you really need to build it?            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Yes.            01/01/70 00:00      
                              try try try again            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 a sign of confidence            01/01/70 00:00      

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