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12/13/05 05:30
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#105114 - Maybe a Name change?
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Andy Neil said:
The fundamental thing that's missing is a definition of what RS-232 actually is, or any reference at all to the RS-232 standard.
In particular, the distinction between the logic-level asynchronous interface at the UART's IO pins, and the bipolar signalling (among other things) that specifically makes RS-232 - and hence the need for a transceiver (such as MAX232).


I kinda thought the reference to reference to Craig Peacock's Serial Guide covered most of this, however I think that I could work in a short paragraph to touch this.

Andy Neil said:

Many misconceptions about RS232 are due to a failure to consult the Source Document; ie, the RS232 spec:
http://www.8052.com/forum/read.phtml?id=57912
http://www.8052.com/forum/read.phtml?id=46426

http://www.8052.com/forum/read.phtml?id=24916


I will reference this in the links section and mention it.

Andy Neil said:

Hyperterminal
You should mention that some Hyperterminal versions will let you change all the settings, and will even display the new settings in the status bar, but won't actually use the new settings until after you Disconnect and then Connect again.
This was true of the Win-98 version, at least.

Some versions grey-out all the options unless you Disconnect before entering the Properties dialogue.
Still not exactly brilliant User Interface design.


This is a definite mention.

Maybe I need to consider a little different name for the document? It was not intended to be a technical guide to the RS232 specification. It's more intended as a step by step guide to establishing a basic RS232 connection between PC and micro controller. Something someone can use to take the two basic components- 8051 and common RS232 transceiver, and establish a basic connection to a PC (Terminal). I would like to include links for more in depth reading, but the most basic purpose is to get the person started.

Jon

I do appreciate all comments good or bad. I hope to end up with something that can be referenced as the final answer to "How do I connect my project to a PC?"

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TopicAuthorDate
Feedback needed            01/01/70 00:00      
   Couple of ideas            01/01/70 00:00      
   Missing            01/01/70 00:00      
      the source...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Stupid EIA            01/01/70 00:00      
      Maybe a Name change?            01/01/70 00:00      
         minor but annoying ...            01/01/70 00:00      
   USB            01/01/70 00:00      
      Limited Experience            01/01/70 00:00      
      known bad USB/serial            01/01/70 00:00      
      FYI - Targus PA088            01/01/70 00:00      
   thoughts            01/01/70 00:00      
      I am so stupid            01/01/70 00:00      
         Kickstart            01/01/70 00:00      
   attribution            01/01/70 00:00      
   The ONE thing I always have to look up a            01/01/70 00:00      
   Ok - Second revision, but still working,            01/01/70 00:00      
      Nice            01/01/70 00:00      
         OK            01/01/70 00:00      
         MAX202 vs. MAX232A            01/01/70 00:00      
         or the 232A            01/01/70 00:00      
      Polled; Interrupt            01/01/70 00:00      
         polled tx            01/01/70 00:00      
            Assorted small ideas            01/01/70 00:00      
               Not a good idea            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Serial speeds?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Enhanced specifications            01/01/70 00:00      
                        That's a strange spec            01/01/70 00:00      
      formal stuff            01/01/70 00:00      
         formal            01/01/70 00:00      
            who's the intended audience            01/01/70 00:00      
   3rd Revision            01/01/70 00:00      
      Busy?            01/01/70 00:00      
         more than a couple of comments...            01/01/70 00:00      
            So.....            01/01/70 00:00      
               what I like or not...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  comments            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Comments on Comments            01/01/70 00:00      
                        bah...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           more problems            01/01/70 00:00      
                              RE: Problems            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Something Strange            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Nope....            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    interrupt            01/01/70 00:00      
   All members will enjoy            01/01/70 00:00      
   Intel serial intro app note            01/01/70 00:00      

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