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11/23/09 21:44
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 		 #171085 - No, I don't think he actually said that
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Erik Malund said:
according to "Mr. Analog" (Bob Pease) Spice is a load of crap.

No, I don't think he actually said that.

I think his gripe is with those who blindly beleive everything that SPICE says without considering the real-life effects that may not be modelled, and/or the possibility that the model itself may be wrong.

Simulation - including SPICE and things like the Keil simulator - are very useful tools, but are only tools.
If the tool is mis-applied, and/or its limitations are not well-understood, you can very easily be misled.

It's just like a calculator can do arithmetic for you - but it won't teach you maths!
You have to know your maths to know how to use a calculator - and to spot when its results are erroneous.

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I'd like to learn Spice, how best to do that?            01/01/70 00:00      
   according to "Mr. Analog"            01/01/70 00:00      
      No, I don't think he actually said that            01/01/70 00:00      
   TINA            01/01/70 00:00      
      Spice????            01/01/70 00:00      
         Useful Sometimes, It Depends...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Consider the source ...            01/01/70 00:00      
            I doubt Bob Pease's remark was as global...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Monitors            01/01/70 00:00      
               Sometimes, all that's needed is an extra pair of spectacles            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Other times, it's just more space!            01/01/70 00:00      
                     odd ... I don't have any software that doesn't do that            01/01/70 00:00      
            Source considered            01/01/70 00:00      
               How about ModelSim?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Well, maybe ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Multiple computers solves different problem than monitors            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Multiple Monitors            01/01/70 00:00      
                        for different reasons ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           other reasons            01/01/70 00:00      
                              it's not impossible to take a snippet            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 No - not impossible, ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Synergy            01/01/70 00:00      
                  re: ModelSim            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Are two monitors ABSOLUTELY necessary?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        necessity            01/01/70 00:00      
                           24" is probably optimum size for the cost            01/01/70 00:00      
                           wouldn't work for me ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     ABSOLUTELY? ... I'm not so sure ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Multiple-PC Monitors            01/01/70 00:00      
                           PiP/PoP            01/01/70 00:00      
                           I see your point ... but ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        re: absolutely.            01/01/70 00:00      
                           I think it's more a matter of preference            01/01/70 00:00      
               Depending on your objective ...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Views on Spice and TINA            01/01/70 00:00      
      ISIS and Tina Pro            01/01/70 00:00      
   spice, eval boards            01/01/70 00:00      

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