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10/07/09 17:10
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#169504 - last time I saw a written copyright ...
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Richard Erlacher said:
...especially of a web-published document?


Ummm, there's one on this very site!

If you carefully read the "boilerplate" in most datasheets and other spec's, they seldom are very specific about what you mustn't do unless it infringes on their economic rights, not their intellectual ones.


The Virtex 4 Users Guide SECOND PAGE has a copyright notice:

Xilinx Boilerplate Copyright notice said:
Xilinx is disclosing this user guide, manual, release note, and/or specification (the "Documentation") to you solely for use in the development of designs to operate with Xilinx hardware devices. You may not reproduce, distribute, republish, download, display, post, or transmit the Documentation in any form or by any means including, but not limited to, electronic, mechanical, photocopying, recording, or otherwise, without the prior written consent of Xilinx. Xilinx expressly disclaims any liability arising out of your use of the Documentation. Xilinx reserves the right, at its sole discretion, to change the Documentation without notice at any time. Xilinx assumes no obligation to correct any errors contained in the Documentation, or to advise you of any corrections or updates. Xilinx expressly disclaims any liability in connection with technical support or assistance that may be provided to you in connection with the Information.

THE DOCUMENTATION IS DISCLOSED TO YOU “AS-IS” WITH NO WARRANTY OF ANY KIND. XILINX MAKES NO OTHER WARRANTIES, WHETHER EXPRESS, IMPLIED, OR STATUTORY, REGARDING THE DOCUMENTATION, INCLUDING ANY WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE, OR NONINFRINGEMENT OF THIRD-PARTY RIGHTS. IN NO EVENT WILL XILINX BE LIABLE FOR ANY CONSEQUENTIAL, INDIRECT, EXEMPLARY, SPECIAL, OR INCIDENTAL DAMAGES, INCLUDING ANY LOSS OF DATA OR LOST PROFITS, ARISING FROM YOUR USE OF THE DOCUMENTATION.
© 2004-2008 Xilinx, Inc. All rights reserved.
XILINX, the Xilinx logo, the Brand Window, and other designated brands included herein are trademarks of Xilinx, Inc. The PowerPC name and logo are registered trademarks of IBM Corp. and used under license therefrom. All other trademarks are the property of their respectiveowners.


That seems pretty clear-cut to me. "You may not reproduce, distribute, ..." specifically disallows publishing the data sheet on your web site. Whether Xilinx chooses to enforce this is entirely their decision.

The lawyers won't waste time if they can't make money


That is not true -- there are many many examples of companies filing copyright- and trademark-infringement lawsuits which are intended only to stop another party from using a product or company name. Let's see: my pals in New Jersey had a quite-good punk-rock band called American Standard. After almost a decade of using this name, the plumbing company American Standard decided to sue to force the band to stop using the name. The intent was not to win a monetary settlement, but instead to simply "protect the brand name." The band won.

and the courts won't do it either if there isn't some form of monetary damage.


The courts don't decide who sues whom! The court is obligated to hear cases brought before it by competent legal counsel.

-a

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I've asked this before ... but ...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Is this specifically 8051?            01/01/70 00:00      
      specifically with 805x and NO SD-specific hardware on-chip            01/01/70 00:00      
         There often are huge speed differences            01/01/70 00:00      
   Yep I have            01/01/70 00:00      
      I'd be interested in that ...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Ill send you a schematic            01/01/70 00:00      
            What do points mean?            01/01/70 00:00      
            Well, I haven't seen it ... yet            01/01/70 00:00      
               Oh dear; I hope this wasn't Jez, then...            01/01/70 00:00      
   How fast?            01/01/70 00:00      
      I'm using an old, but relatively complete, spec            01/01/70 00:00      
         "external" hardware            01/01/70 00:00      
            Yes, that would be nice ...            01/01/70 00:00      
         50MBps            01/01/70 00:00      
            That's what the capital B means ...            01/01/70 00:00      
               You assume too much            01/01/70 00:00      
                  It's like that other nomenclature issue I keep mentioning            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Sad, but true            01/01/70 00:00      
               25MHz * 4bit = 12.5MB/s            01/01/70 00:00      
                  correct            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Now I'm confused ... as you can see ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     someplace to put spec's            01/01/70 00:00      
                        It's a two-edged sword            01/01/70 00:00      
                           True, but..            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Published spec's are in the public domain            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 No, that's not true            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    It depends on how the IP is used, doesn't it?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       No, it doesn't.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Not public domain            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Quite so!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Copyright Term and the Public Domain in the United States            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                They have the "right" but not the cause            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Letter of the law            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      Let me ask you something ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         I didn't say that            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   They have the right            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      When was the last time you saw a written copyright?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         See previous examples!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                            Whose interests are "protected"?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                               Information owners            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                  ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                     Life isn't fair            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                               What the thread is about? SD Card or CopyRights!!!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                  There's a reason for that ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                     Lots of interests in SD, but danger involved in sharing            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         last time I saw a written copyright ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                            No need for long legalese            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                               True, but ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                            That's the boilerplate to which I referred            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                               the band won            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      Ooops!            01/01/70 00:00      
   I forgot sorry            01/01/70 00:00      
      That was what ... 6 weeks ago?            01/01/70 00:00      
   SD/SDIO host controller chips            01/01/70 00:00      

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