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07/27/09 08:16
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#167920 - Not just boundary scan
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Note that many JTAG solutions are better than just boundary scan.

There is a general move away from ICE solutions, and the chip manufacturers are instead adding a debug block inside the processors, to allow the JTAG interface to not just perform boundary scan, but to also allow more or less intelligent breakpoints and possibly tracing. Some processors also complements the standard JTAG with special trace pins, to allow you to record the executed instructions.

I'm not sure what the exact state is for Atmel AVR chips with JTAG interface. I do have their JTAG ICE mkII but have only used it will smaller chips that are using their one-wire debug interface.

The big difference between a JTAG interface and using a monitor software is that the JTAG allows single-stepping from the first instruction, and can debug most situtations where the chip locks up. And you can use the full flash size for the application program. The debug block in the processor allows breakpoints in the flash address range, without reprogramming the flash with any magic sw instructions.

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ICE for recent 40-pin DIP variants?            01/01/70 00:00      
   softICE?            01/01/70 00:00      
   I have a couple of Ceibos for the X2's            01/01/70 00:00      
   Acqura            01/01/70 00:00      
      Acqura/Philips/NXP App Note            01/01/70 00:00      
   Metaice?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Phyton            01/01/70 00:00      
         P89V51Rx2 emulator            01/01/70 00:00      
            Meta $            01/01/70 00:00      
               what do you expect?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Phyton Origin            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Cost money to move to a different architecture too            01/01/70 00:00      
                     there's no ICE for AVRs            01/01/70 00:00      
                        An ICE isn't always needed            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Yon know what I mean            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Not just boundary scan            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 sure not            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Real debugger...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Buy - or Hire? or Make?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Watch out for Erik            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Kitchen table            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             not necessarily            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Never underestimate a home-drilled programmer/debugger            01/01/70 00:00      
                        JATG ICE from ATMEL for AVR            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Phyton            01/01/70 00:00      
                           yes, sure. Thanks.            01/01/70 00:00      
                     SiLabs w/out analog            01/01/70 00:00      
                        My idea of ICE            01/01/70 00:00      
                           re: ICE            01/01/70 00:00      
                              S I Labs ICE            01/01/70 00:00      
                           learning curve            01/01/70 00:00      
                              learning curve            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Luminary            01/01/70 00:00      
                           my idea of what an ICE needs to do            01/01/70 00:00      
   Crazy new (?) ICE            01/01/70 00:00      
      nice            01/01/70 00:00      
      any 'ICE' that uses pins/UART/... is not an ICE            01/01/70 00:00      
         any 'ICE' that uses pins/UART... is not an ICE            01/01/70 00:00      
   The low cost one            01/01/70 00:00      
      English link            01/01/70 00:00      
         looks promising            01/01/70 00:00      

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