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07/26/09 23:11
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#167911 - Yon know what I mean
Responding to: ???'s previous message
I said:
There's no ICE for AVRs, AFAIK.

Per Westermark said:
You can do a lot with a JTAG interface,

Sure I can. For example boundary scan. That's what JTAG is intended for, after all...

Per Westermark said:
The most important thing is to be able to single-step and to read out memory or register data. Sometimes a good breakpoint subsystem is worth gold, but you can most of the time manage with stupid breakpoints too.


As I said above, Grant could do just the same with SoftICE, with certain limitations. Sure, the limitations of the monitor are more severe than that of an on-chip debugger, but apparently, he does not want either, and he is after a real ICE.

There's a lot of hum and buzz around the terms, and at the first glance it might seem that Atmel offers ICE for the AVRs - although deceiving, this is how they call the JTAG thingy, don't they. That's why I am warning.

JW


List of 41 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
ICE for recent 40-pin DIP variants?            01/01/70 00:00      
   softICE?            01/01/70 00:00      
   I have a couple of Ceibos for the X2's            01/01/70 00:00      
   Acqura            01/01/70 00:00      
      Acqura/Philips/NXP App Note            01/01/70 00:00      
   Metaice?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Phyton            01/01/70 00:00      
         P89V51Rx2 emulator            01/01/70 00:00      
            Meta $            01/01/70 00:00      
               what do you expect?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Phyton Origin            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Cost money to move to a different architecture too            01/01/70 00:00      
                     there's no ICE for AVRs            01/01/70 00:00      
                        An ICE isn't always needed            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Yon know what I mean            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Not just boundary scan            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 sure not            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Real debugger...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Buy - or Hire? or Make?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Watch out for Erik            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Kitchen table            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             not necessarily            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Never underestimate a home-drilled programmer/debugger            01/01/70 00:00      
                        JATG ICE from ATMEL for AVR            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Phyton            01/01/70 00:00      
                           yes, sure. Thanks.            01/01/70 00:00      
                     SiLabs w/out analog            01/01/70 00:00      
                        My idea of ICE            01/01/70 00:00      
                           re: ICE            01/01/70 00:00      
                              S I Labs ICE            01/01/70 00:00      
                           learning curve            01/01/70 00:00      
                              learning curve            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Luminary            01/01/70 00:00      
                           my idea of what an ICE needs to do            01/01/70 00:00      
   Crazy new (?) ICE            01/01/70 00:00      
      nice            01/01/70 00:00      
      any 'ICE' that uses pins/UART/... is not an ICE            01/01/70 00:00      
         any 'ICE' that uses pins/UART... is not an ICE            01/01/70 00:00      
   The low cost one            01/01/70 00:00      
      English link            01/01/70 00:00      
         looks promising            01/01/70 00:00      

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