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02/23/12 14:55
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#186167 - even better
Responding to: ???'s previous message
In some situations, I think the availability of early silicon could be seen as "large volume". The chip manufacturer things you are interesting enough that they allow you to be one of a limited number of customers who get very advance documents, and very early silicon. Just so that you can have a device ready - hw + sw - when the manufacturer finally have a releasable stepping.

The disadvantages if that some prototypes will never be able to do some things, because the mounted processor has critical errors with no workaround. And the reference designs may not even be finalized yet.

The advantage - access to the inner circle of engineers. And the chance of an early shipping of a competitive hardware months before the competition.


I have had "early silicon", betas of rel 1.0 of compilers and such. "a very pleasant pain in the butt" is probably the best description I can use. The adavantage of having product ready by the time the chip is released for production, so you can be first is, in certain markets, a HUGE advantage.

even better, be a consultant to the chip design team. Been there, done that (no, it was not an uC)

Erik


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So what does "high volume" mean to you?            01/01/70 00:00      
   1 million sales            01/01/70 00:00      
   Depends too much on product and product value            01/01/70 00:00      
   In the cellphone market? Millions.            01/01/70 00:00      
      50k?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Report a bug and see what happens:            01/01/70 00:00      
            No help from SiLab technical support            01/01/70 00:00      
               unusual or changed or ....            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Response from local distributor            01/01/70 00:00      
            Shouldn't be the case?            01/01/70 00:00      
               It's probably a risk vs. reward thing.            01/01/70 00:00      
                  but, at least            01/01/70 00:00      
               Alas so huge amounts of false bug reports to support            01/01/70 00:00      
                  a valid point            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Not so sure about bigger companies have better skills            01/01/70 00:00      
                     it's difficult to provide persuasive evidence            01/01/70 00:00      
                        to prove a chip defect            01/01/70 00:00      
                           I'm guessing this happens because of slow response times ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           I see it from a different angle ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  RE: huge amounts of false bug reports            01/01/70 00:00      
                     That's why bug reports must be accompanied by evidence            01/01/70 00:00      
               I have twice had one such case            01/01/70 00:00      
         that value            01/01/70 00:00      
            Does anyone buy components at a "local" store.            01/01/70 00:00      
               Not anymore ...            01/01/70 00:00      
               seems to be the case in Farawayistan            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Early silicon            01/01/70 00:00      
                     even better            01/01/70 00:00      
                  It was common in the U.S. to buy small quantities locally            01/01/70 00:00      
               On-line            01/01/70 00:00      
   High volume usually means low margin.            01/01/70 00:00      
      High volume means high profit            01/01/70 00:00      
   Ask this question the mcu manufacturers.            01/01/70 00:00      
   In terms of products:            01/01/70 00:00      

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