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02/23/10 11:44
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#173461 - Thanks Andy
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Andy Neil said:
Kiran V. Sutar said:

1. For SMPS we need to put a Thermistor to limit the in-rush current. So what should be the type NTC or PTC ?

Think about it - what do the initials "NTC" and "PTC" stand for; and what do they mean...?

NTC : Negative Temperature Coefficient: Resistance reduces as Temp.increases.
PTC : Possitive Temperature Coefficient: Resistance increases as Temp.Increases.



Andy Neil said:
Kiran V. Sutar said:

2. for SCR: What is the theory of using a thermistor in such an application?

The text you quoted tells you the purpose of the thermistor;
Uderstanding what "NTC" and "PTC" means will show you how this is achieved.

I never read anything about this, when I studied about Thermistors. I was expecting more than 1-line information about this theory.
Till now, I knew that Thermistors are used for measuring the temperature(based on change in resistance).
But in an SMPS Application: you are using a thermistor for limiting the in-rush current !!! and that too 1~2 Amps !!! What about the wattage of Thermistor? It is not mentioned in the datasheet (or I might have missed it)

In SCR/TRIAC Application: you are using it to limit dI/dt rating. Is the dI/dt rating dependant on the Temperature? So how does a thermistor fit into this ? And can a thermistor pass a current of 25Amps@230VAC? What about the wattage of thermistor?

Andy Neil said:
Kiran V. Sutar said:

3. My Full Load Current is Max.25Amps.(@ 230VAC) so can a Thermistor pass this much current

That depends entirely on the specific thermistor that you use - its Datasheet will answer this question directly!

Can you give me a part number or link to datasheet so I can refer to it? I have refered to some datasheets of thermistors, but they do not specify the current that can pass through them. How to select it?

Andy Neil said:

Are you confusing limiting the inrush to the power supply with limiting the dI/dt of a triac?

There are 2 separate things that I wanted to know:
1. for SMPS which thermistor to use ? NTC or PTC?
2. for SCR/TRIAC: Can a thermistor be used for limiting the dI/dt of SCR/Triac for 25Amps@230VAC? and what is the parameter that helps in selecting the Thermistor for this application?

The fact is, I do not know the theory of using the thermistor for SCR/TRIAC or even the SMPS application.

So if you can post some links about it, it will be of great help.

Thank you.


List of 26 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Current Rating of Thermistor/Inductor            01/01/70 00:00      
   NTC or PTC ?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Thanks Andy            01/01/70 00:00      
         PTC.            01/01/70 00:00      
            How will a thermistor LIMIT inrush current ?            01/01/70 00:00      
         SCR dI/dt limiting            01/01/70 00:00      
            Magic bit            01/01/70 00:00      
            Rule 8 comes from here...            01/01/70 00:00      
         RE: I never read anything about this            01/01/70 00:00      
         There are many types of "thermistor"            01/01/70 00:00      
   Thanks Steve and Andy            01/01/70 00:00      
      That's probably the safest route            01/01/70 00:00      
   SCK NTC series...            01/01/70 00:00      
      That's probably not a good idea, unless...            01/01/70 00:00      
      Thanks Kai...            01/01/70 00:00      
         No, you have it exactly the wrong way around!            01/01/70 00:00      
            Would any other NTC do the job..?            01/01/70 00:00      
            Hint: cause of "inrush"            01/01/70 00:00      
               The great White light NOW struck me !!!            01/01/70 00:00      
         NTC versus PTC...            01/01/70 00:00      
            NTC or PTC?            01/01/70 00:00      
               Or by other words...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Is that really true?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     What I meant...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        It's all about conserving energy            01/01/70 00:00      
   An informative link for In-rush current            01/01/70 00:00      

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