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02/01/10 17:03
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#172841 - Let's not mix the layers.
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Back when this was all being built, people relied on the 7-layer model. Today it's been reduced considerably, probably due to laziness more than anything else, though with it's inevitable costs in efficiency and effectiveness.

POTS is a physical-layer mechanism. IP is in the upper layers albeit at the lower end of those layers. Whether you receive your phone service via POTS or some all-digital scheme is not relevant to the fact IP is the distribution mechanism.

My own interest in these matters waned once the money stopped flowing, at least to me. That was more or less concurrent with the wide acceptance of the current, flawed cellular comm's system, though that wasn't the cause. I do regret that the popular system was adopted because its reliability is only on the order of 1% that of the "good-old-circuit-switched-network" with which I was reared. Having used that, in all its incarnations since WW-II, I recall no interrupted calls or even missed syllables, aside from when I dropped the phone. That system had extremely low bit-error rates, and worked very well. The cellular system drops more bits per second than the old wired system dropped in a year. Yes, part of that is due to more bits ...

Let's not hijack Ralph's "Magic Jack" thread ... this discussion could go on but should do so in a different thread.

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TopicAuthorDate
Magic Jack it's magic if it works            01/01/70 00:00      
   Now, I'm not sure of any of this ...            01/01/70 00:00      
      I agree with you Richard            01/01/70 00:00      
      UDP?            01/01/70 00:00      
   What are you talking about?            01/01/70 00:00      
      unlimited long distance $19.99/YEAR            01/01/70 00:00      
         That's not much help!            01/01/70 00:00      
            phone            01/01/70 00:00      
      Some VoIP arrangements work quite well            01/01/70 00:00      
         They depend entirely on your internet connection            01/01/70 00:00      
   IP telephony,            01/01/70 00:00      
      Radio Shack because            01/01/70 00:00      
         What's TV got to do with it?            01/01/70 00:00      
            re: TV            01/01/70 00:00      
         TV ?            01/01/70 00:00      
            Just a comparision between            01/01/70 00:00      
               Now I'm *really* confused!!            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Why confusion            01/01/70 00:00      
                     I think you've misunderstood the "threading"            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Confused because...            01/01/70 00:00      
   So we're talking some kind of IP telephony device, then?            01/01/70 00:00      
      How check IP link?            01/01/70 00:00      
         I very much doubt it            01/01/70 00:00      
   State of the art components            01/01/70 00:00      
   Internet connection?            01/01/70 00:00      
      consider how voice telecom works ...            01/01/70 00:00      
         I Like your reply but            01/01/70 00:00      
            It makes just a little difference            01/01/70 00:00      
         I don't think that's the point here?            01/01/70 00:00      
            Nomenclature?            01/01/70 00:00      
               PSTN = POTS            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Things change            01/01/70 00:00      
               IP            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Let's not mix the layers.            01/01/70 00:00      
                     But IP is key to this discussion            01/01/70 00:00      
         RE: I was working in the VoIP arena twenty-five years ago            01/01/70 00:00      
            Yes, things have changed considerably            01/01/70 00:00      
      Cable modem            01/01/70 00:00      
         re cable modem            01/01/70 00:00      
            I tried it            01/01/70 00:00      
               Too many variables!            01/01/70 00:00      
                  It's pretty clear in one respect ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     guess what guys            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Back to square one            01/01/70 00:00      
                  what the %$#@!            01/01/70 00:00      
                     BOGOF?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  multi-post ...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Magicjack lawsuit            01/01/70 00:00      
      No such thing as a free lunch            01/01/70 00:00      

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