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02/01/10 14:37
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#172833 - Nomenclature?
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Andy Neil said:
The issue here, I think, is not so much to do with digitising the analogue signal and "compressing" the data - it is to do with the resilience against packet loss and packet delay over the IP network.

The point is that IP networks were designed purely for data - not for voice comms.

Richard Erlacher said:
Packet-Switched Telecommunication Network

Note that "PSTN" is "Public Switched Telephone Network" - which refers to a circuit-switched network specifically designed for telephone (ie, voice) traffic.

PSPDN = Packet-Switched Public Data Network.


Back when I was working with such things, well over 25 years ago, we had two types of networks we discussed. We talked about PSTN and CSTN. The latter was Circuit-Switched Telephone Network while the latter was, in fact, Packet-Switched Telecommunication Network. The latter had evolved from telephone to telecommunication as a consequence of the increasing use of DS0 and DS3 networks among businesses.

It's worth keeping in mind that, back then, the telephone network to which we were accustomed was, in fact, primarily a voice-comm's network, and that IP had been a construct allowing data networking on the voice network. The term "circuit-switched" dated from the days when, in fact, there was a physical circuit connection between the instruments at both ends, which had, in fact, been eliminated through the use of TDM decades before IP became a viable concept. At that time, the pulses that the instrument generated by dialing a number actually caused a stepping relay to increment its position to one of ten steps, and, incrementally, progressed to a point at which there was a physical circuit connected between those instruments once both were "off-hook."

I guess nomenclature evolves right along with industry culture.

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Magic Jack it's magic if it works            01/01/70 00:00      
   Now, I'm not sure of any of this ...            01/01/70 00:00      
      I agree with you Richard            01/01/70 00:00      
      UDP?            01/01/70 00:00      
   What are you talking about?            01/01/70 00:00      
      unlimited long distance $19.99/YEAR            01/01/70 00:00      
         That's not much help!            01/01/70 00:00      
            phone            01/01/70 00:00      
      Some VoIP arrangements work quite well            01/01/70 00:00      
         They depend entirely on your internet connection            01/01/70 00:00      
   IP telephony,            01/01/70 00:00      
      Radio Shack because            01/01/70 00:00      
         What's TV got to do with it?            01/01/70 00:00      
            re: TV            01/01/70 00:00      
         TV ?            01/01/70 00:00      
            Just a comparision between            01/01/70 00:00      
               Now I'm *really* confused!!            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Why confusion            01/01/70 00:00      
                     I think you've misunderstood the "threading"            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Confused because...            01/01/70 00:00      
   So we're talking some kind of IP telephony device, then?            01/01/70 00:00      
      How check IP link?            01/01/70 00:00      
         I very much doubt it            01/01/70 00:00      
   State of the art components            01/01/70 00:00      
   Internet connection?            01/01/70 00:00      
      consider how voice telecom works ...            01/01/70 00:00      
         I Like your reply but            01/01/70 00:00      
            It makes just a little difference            01/01/70 00:00      
         I don't think that's the point here?            01/01/70 00:00      
            Nomenclature?            01/01/70 00:00      
               PSTN = POTS            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Things change            01/01/70 00:00      
               IP            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Let's not mix the layers.            01/01/70 00:00      
                     But IP is key to this discussion            01/01/70 00:00      
         RE: I was working in the VoIP arena twenty-five years ago            01/01/70 00:00      
            Yes, things have changed considerably            01/01/70 00:00      
      Cable modem            01/01/70 00:00      
         re cable modem            01/01/70 00:00      
            I tried it            01/01/70 00:00      
               Too many variables!            01/01/70 00:00      
                  It's pretty clear in one respect ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     guess what guys            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Back to square one            01/01/70 00:00      
                  what the %$#@!            01/01/70 00:00      
                     BOGOF?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  multi-post ...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Magicjack lawsuit            01/01/70 00:00      
      No such thing as a free lunch            01/01/70 00:00      

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