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01/31/10 15:04
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#172807 - UDP?
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Richard Erlacher said:
Packets don't always arrive at regular intervals, and often arrive out of order.

To minimise overheads, I think these things tend to use UDP - which means that the packets might not even arrive at all!

In order to compensate for the random variation in packet arrival times, it requires a very large (deep) buffer.

But too much buffering leads to unacceptable delays - so there's only so far you can go with that.

If the buffer in this gadget is a bit too small, then the effects described are likely.

As noted here, these effects are typical of digital media in general and IP Telephony in particular: they're fine as far as the buffering, error-correction, etc can cope - but, once you get past that limit, they become virtually unusable.

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TopicAuthorDate
Magic Jack it's magic if it works            01/01/70 00:00      
   Now, I'm not sure of any of this ...            01/01/70 00:00      
      I agree with you Richard            01/01/70 00:00      
      UDP?            01/01/70 00:00      
   What are you talking about?            01/01/70 00:00      
      unlimited long distance $19.99/YEAR            01/01/70 00:00      
         That's not much help!            01/01/70 00:00      
            phone            01/01/70 00:00      
      Some VoIP arrangements work quite well            01/01/70 00:00      
         They depend entirely on your internet connection            01/01/70 00:00      
   IP telephony,            01/01/70 00:00      
      Radio Shack because            01/01/70 00:00      
         What's TV got to do with it?            01/01/70 00:00      
            re: TV            01/01/70 00:00      
         TV ?            01/01/70 00:00      
            Just a comparision between            01/01/70 00:00      
               Now I'm *really* confused!!            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Why confusion            01/01/70 00:00      
                     I think you've misunderstood the "threading"            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Confused because...            01/01/70 00:00      
   So we're talking some kind of IP telephony device, then?            01/01/70 00:00      
      How check IP link?            01/01/70 00:00      
         I very much doubt it            01/01/70 00:00      
   State of the art components            01/01/70 00:00      
   Internet connection?            01/01/70 00:00      
      consider how voice telecom works ...            01/01/70 00:00      
         I Like your reply but            01/01/70 00:00      
            It makes just a little difference            01/01/70 00:00      
         I don't think that's the point here?            01/01/70 00:00      
            Nomenclature?            01/01/70 00:00      
               PSTN = POTS            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Things change            01/01/70 00:00      
               IP            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Let's not mix the layers.            01/01/70 00:00      
                     But IP is key to this discussion            01/01/70 00:00      
         RE: I was working in the VoIP arena twenty-five years ago            01/01/70 00:00      
            Yes, things have changed considerably            01/01/70 00:00      
      Cable modem            01/01/70 00:00      
         re cable modem            01/01/70 00:00      
            I tried it            01/01/70 00:00      
               Too many variables!            01/01/70 00:00      
                  It's pretty clear in one respect ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     guess what guys            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Back to square one            01/01/70 00:00      
                  what the %$#@!            01/01/70 00:00      
                     BOGOF?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  multi-post ...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Magicjack lawsuit            01/01/70 00:00      
      No such thing as a free lunch            01/01/70 00:00      

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