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02/18/08 16:10
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 		 #151017 - Faulty logic
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Erik Malund said:
.. the result was "throw the disassembly away and start from scratch"

Thus, my opinion is "if you are not about to copy some hardware and insert a processor with stolen code the value of hex code is zero".

Thus as any legal use of unlocking is worthless, only illegal unlocking has worth.

thus ban the crap

Erik


Your conclusion is not valid because one of your premises is false. Example: I wanted to modify the behavior of my alarm system (8035 based). While mucking about in the code I also discovered a serious error in its logic and fixed it. Since I had neither source code nor schematic, disassembling and modifying the code took far less time than "starting from scratch". Doing so was completely legal under fair use laws.

Not everyone has the same experiences as you Erik, nor do they have the same outlook. To think otherwise is called "parochial".





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Security-breaking threads            01/01/70 00:00      
   Mostly bad            01/01/70 00:00      
      put that in the rulse and ...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Reverse Engineering            01/01/70 00:00      
      Why would this be the case?            01/01/70 00:00      
         legal, maybe, but worthless            01/01/70 00:00      
      Reverse Engineering            01/01/70 00:00      
         locked doors            01/01/70 00:00      
            a couple of points ...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Thief?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Ironically the Chinese Wall            01/01/70 00:00      
                  IANAL, but...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Are you sure?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  the law can be interpreted in many ways            01/01/70 00:00      
               by the time you'll decide...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  the short happy life of ... Jan Waclawek?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     you apparently don't understand my point, Richard            01/01/70 00:00      
                        It should be how to Protect Your MCU rather then h            01/01/70 00:00      
                        perhaps I do            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Fair use, security, and all that            01/01/70 00:00      
                              It's simpler than that            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 What harm?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    If you really want to do that            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       A greater harm            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Have you gone one assumption too far?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Republicans, believe .... AIDS            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                mingling the issue            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Which link ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      find it yourself            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         You find it and Its IAR policy not yours            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                            no, it is not, I'm sure            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                               what an IAR in code ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                  not witrh a Keil eval            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                     Thats company policy            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                        I sure can make this decision that            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                           Is leasing Compiler legal ? . I will never do that            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                              I don't quite understand this..            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                                 That's why it requires no treatment here            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Would you?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Slap in the face!            01/01/70 00:00      
      Recovering lost code            01/01/70 00:00      
   Don't help pirates but...            01/01/70 00:00      
   FAQ            01/01/70 00:00      
   it sure is immoral to steal code            01/01/70 00:00      
      The morality of repairs.            01/01/70 00:00      
   I've done it legally and ...            01/01/70 00:00      
      Faulty logic            01/01/70 00:00      
         evidently you missed my exception            01/01/70 00:00      
            False statements            01/01/70 00:00      
               GPL as 'protection' LOL            01/01/70 00:00      
      Security through obscurity            01/01/70 00:00      
         other possibilities            01/01/70 00:00      
            Malund you come to conclusion very early !            01/01/70 00:00      
               Are you sure?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  OK, so let's circumvent this problem...            01/01/70 00:00      
               then why have you done so?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Did that link open your eyes            01/01/70 00:00      
                     I do not care, my code is worthless in hex            01/01/70 00:00      
         This one is on you, Craig ... the buck stops there            01/01/70 00:00      
            Competence.            01/01/70 00:00      
               I know of many 'unteachable'            01/01/70 00:00      
                  That's what put options are for ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Let's not promote fakery in the profession            01/01/70 00:00      
   Answer to the original question            01/01/70 00:00      

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