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10/09/07 19:27
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#145556 - there were several influences
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Jacob Boyce said:
Yes,

I found out the hard way, when I first started out they were using these devices for test fixtures. Of course they were not meant as a permanent solution as opposed to wire wrapping. Eventually, I soldered all of the connections because they would either get oxidation between the wire and the terminal or they would work their way loose due to vibration.


Since this thread is about wire-wrap, though it does deal with alternatives, I'll stick to what I know about wire-wrap. Like nearly every other technique, wire-wrap requires rigor and discipline. If those are applied, the circuit resulting from their application will have integrity and will function as designed. The key, of course, from where I sit, is that (A) the circuit is inherently alterable with appropriate effort, and (B) the circuit can be either permanent or totally disassembled and its components reused.

I have wire-wrap cards that I've owned and used, again and again, since the '70's, on which the "wear" may show just a bit, but which are just as useable as they were when new. I recently "unwired" a couple of large, Multibus-I cards that were sample cards in an ultra-wide logic analyzer I built back in the early '80's when I found I couldn't buy one with nearly 400 channels. I have some small "utility" cards that I've used again and again. Removing wires is tedious, but not particularly demanding, and I do it myself most of the time, or I have an idle technician do it when there's no prospect of more useful work on the immediate schedule.

That reuseability is, perhaps, the most prominent difference between wire-wrap and the many alternative one-off or prototype construction techniques. I know of few people who have even attempted to modify circuits built with the multiwire, or several Insulation-displacement or "chain" wiring strategies that were commonly explored as being "quicker and easier" than wire-wrapping. I've stuck with wire-wrap as a construction technique because I've had the tools and materials since the '70's, and have learned to do it adequately. Further, since I once sold boards I considered to be superior to what was generally offered, I use those boards that I still have on hand. Since they're reuseable, I don't have to have more made very often.

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Wednesday survey            01/01/70 00:00      
   Yes            01/01/70 00:00      
      huh            01/01/70 00:00      
         I do!            01/01/70 00:00      
            can you two please hint on tag-strips?            01/01/70 00:00      
               The clue is in the name            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Another hint            01/01/70 00:00      
         nor do I!            01/01/70 00:00      
         nor do I!            01/01/70 00:00      
         "Printed" Circuit Boards            01/01/70 00:00      
            Tagstrips!            01/01/70 00:00      
   Yes            01/01/70 00:00      
      Pictures coming            01/01/70 00:00      
   Yes            01/01/70 00:00      
      Multi-layer            01/01/70 00:00      
         I do not know the reason, but I experienced            01/01/70 00:00      
            It was commonly done by hand for one-offs            01/01/70 00:00      
               Not Always            01/01/70 00:00      
                  true, however            01/01/70 00:00      
         Improved reliability            01/01/70 00:00      
   Yes            01/01/70 00:00      
   yes            01/01/70 00:00      
   yes            01/01/70 00:00      
   Not just for rapid prototyping ...            01/01/70 00:00      
      NASA used it too!            01/01/70 00:00      
   Yes            01/01/70 00:00      
   Old enough to remember delivering Machine Wrap            01/01/70 00:00      
      in a week or so ...            01/01/70 00:00      
      modified wrap            01/01/70 00:00      
   re:survey            01/01/70 00:00      
      another 10 points            01/01/70 00:00      
         IDCs used for IDB? Maybe?            01/01/70 00:00      
         re:IDC            01/01/70 00:00      
            DIL sockets?            01/01/70 00:00      
               re:DIL            01/01/70 00:00      
                  I remember these            01/01/70 00:00      
                     I agree            01/01/70 00:00      
                        there were several influences            01/01/70 00:00      
                  but this looks like - OK let's call it DIP...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Density            01/01/70 00:00      
                        this is beyond my imagination            01/01/70 00:00      
                           skipped slots            01/01/70 00:00      
                              In some backplanes, they interfere            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Oh I see. Thanks.            01/01/70 00:00      
               DIL = DIP            01/01/70 00:00      
   How many points for these?            01/01/70 00:00      
      +10 points each...            01/01/70 00:00      
      How about "multiwire"            01/01/70 00:00      
         I remember those            01/01/70 00:00      
            i remember multiwire            01/01/70 00:00      
               Same as wirestitch and stitchweld            01/01/70 00:00      
   yes            01/01/70 00:00      
   Some serious wire-wrapping for you...            01/01/70 00:00      
      thanks            01/01/70 00:00      
      I see the wires, but where's the wrapping?            01/01/70 00:00      
         WHAT??? You want details?            01/01/70 00:00      
         some wirewrapping here...            01/01/70 00:00      
            God all mighty            01/01/70 00:00      
               and how much time doe is take...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Low cost, high volume wire wrapping            01/01/70 00:00      

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