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07/20/06 18:28
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#120701 - Perhaps it is not just their skill
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Perhaps it's their dedication to the core processes of learning.

If the students are in the classroom just to "get through" the course with a passing grade, or if the instructor is just there to secure some funding for his post-grad research or to get a paycheck, and nothing else, then little value will be added by this process.

Likewise, if the student simply visits 8052.COM or some other www venue for answers to his homework questions, and if the instructor simply looks for a set of answers or simply checks to see whether the homework was handed in on time, little benefit will come from the process.

That's why some of us, using myself as an example, look for, at least, a BIT of thought in the queries presented by people who appear to be, or who state they are, students. I've said many times, that the facts one learns during education in a technology-oriented discipline are changing so rapidly that they're not likely to be valid by the time a course of study is complete. Now E will still be equal to I*R, but there are many things that will change. The process of learning the important details of a problem and of deriving requirements from the statement of a problem will not change. The process of deriving relevant facts from a device datasheet will not change. The process of addressing requirements with those relevant facts will not change. Those are discipline issues, and discipline is what is required in order to be successful, no matter what the pursuit.

Instructors have different styles, some heavily emphasizing theory, while others emphasize hands-on experience. Neither, taken by itself, will suffice, but it's not necessary, or probably even possible, to compute the RC time constant of a large digital circuit, in order to use it effectively. However, it's absolutely necessary to know the worst-case power consumption in order to select/design the appropriate power source. It's also necessary to know what a factor of safety is and how to apply it.

Students need to be sufficiently disciplined that they are present at each class period and fully prepared.

Instructors need to be prepared as well, particularly in having previously asigned and turned-in homework examined and graded promptly.

Students must be absolutely quiet and attentive, without cellphones, video games, or iPods in use during class.

Instructors must be absolutely isistent that students remain awake and are permanently expelled from their class for creating a disturbance, including a tardy entry into class. They must also put heavy emphasis on student preparation, not because it helps learning, though it does, but because the single most important thing learned in college is to be present and to do the work promptly.

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All teachers and students            01/01/70 00:00      
   Perhaps it is not just their skill            01/01/70 00:00      
      Dedication            01/01/70 00:00      
         this is not an attack ... but ... syntax            01/01/70 00:00      
            Ejaculated from the classroom?            01/01/70 00:00      
               I meant to imply, "tossed out of the window."            01/01/70 00:00      
   No one??            01/01/70 00:00      
      Sorry Mr.Kai Klass            01/01/70 00:00      
         Attitudes            01/01/70 00:00      
            easily by reading this, which comes up when 'ente            01/01/70 00:00      
         the problem            01/01/70 00:00      
            buyt that is IMPOSSIBLE            01/01/70 00:00      
         I'm not at all sure that's correct            01/01/70 00:00      
            sure you do            01/01/70 00:00      
               yes, the moron who doesn't answer the question            01/01/70 00:00      
                  language            01/01/70 00:00      
      Sorry for misunderstanding            01/01/70 00:00      
   pure and unadulterated male cow manure            01/01/70 00:00      
   Bad worker always blames his tools            01/01/70 00:00      
      Good and bad professors            01/01/70 00:00      
         humans            01/01/70 00:00      
   Gopalakrishnan, this is wat you 'defend'            01/01/70 00:00      
      No i am not            01/01/70 00:00      
         wars have been fought because someone remained qui            01/01/70 00:00      
   No easy answer            01/01/70 00:00      
      I may agree with your sentiment, BUT...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Teaching            01/01/70 00:00      
      all classes I have taught have been obvious roads            01/01/70 00:00      
         It's not always so clear-cut            01/01/70 00:00      
   a query            01/01/70 00:00      
      my suggestion            01/01/70 00:00      
   Looking at it from the other point of view            01/01/70 00:00      

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