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02/29/12 15:33
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#186277 - More common long time ago
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Erik Malund said:
just, generally, a horrible design.
It seems, that the 'designer' (if you can call him that) just threw something together heving no concern for LED survival, no concern for intensity variations, I could go on ....

Erik

This design wasn't too uncommon 20 years ago, with older diodes having a completely different behaviour. Old LEDs could handle huge current spikes without a problem, and could run with extreme multiplexing as long as the average current wasn't too high. And there wasn't pesky laws about power factor correction of loads, except for industrial-sized installations. And a cheap transformer can scale down the voltage to human-safe voltages. And slightly reduce the overtones on mains.

An interesting thing with a long LED chain is that if one LED gets a short, the voltage over the LED chain will decrease and the voltage/current over series resistor will increase. Besides extra heat in this resistor, another marginal LED could fail. I have seen some nice LED chains where every LED have shorted. I'm not sure if it's just some LED types that fails to short or if they normally go to open, but with 12 shorted LEDs in same chain I kwow that at least some LED may fail with a short.

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   Some basics            01/01/70 00:00      
      Not a good design - and expensive            01/01/70 00:00      
         Answers + need some explantion            01/01/70 00:00      
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         More than 280V            01/01/70 00:00      
            Measurement            01/01/70 00:00      
               Measurement correct            01/01/70 00:00      
   two caps polarity reversed on DC!! ?            01/01/70 00:00      
      More common long time ago            01/01/70 00:00      
         I was around then            01/01/70 00:00      
            Some polarized capacitors survives AC but not reversed DC            01/01/70 00:00      
               POOOOOOOOOF            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Yes, very likely a failure            01/01/70 00:00      
                     that need bold face            01/01/70 00:00      
            Back to back connection...            01/01/70 00:00      
   And another thing...            01/01/70 00:00      
      Pseudo-CC with resistor requires much % V over resistor            01/01/70 00:00      
      chip            01/01/70 00:00      
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   PC PSU            01/01/70 00:00      
      Definitely better with lower voltage design            01/01/70 00:00      
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